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Fifteen Houston- area HS football coaches make at least $100k

Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:54 am
Posted by SaturdayTraditions
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:54 am
Fifteen Houston- area football coaches make at least $100k

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Think that one must take a vow of poverty to serve as a high school coach? Think again.

According to data collected by the Houston Chronicle, 15 different high school football coaches in Houston and its immediate suburbs earn more than $100,000 per year. Those figures don’t even include extra income gained from football camps or other efforts on the part of the coaches themselves.

Naturally, a six-figure income is not the be-all, end-all proof of a professional’s success. But it is enlightening, and shows where the focus is for a number of football programs in one of America’s largest cities, regardless of how successful they are.

For the record, all of the head coaches in Katy, a Houston suburb, have salaries that top the century mark. And the lowest salary among the 61 compiled by the Chronicle was still $75,000, hardly a ticket to abject poverty.

The true test of relative wage inflation in the coaching ranks comes when the salaries for football coaches are compared to those of teachers. According to this chart, the mean salary for a secondary school educator in the state of Texas is $51,800; in the Houston-Sugar Land area specifically that number increases to $52,370.

What does that tell us? That some Houston schools view their football coaches are roughly twice as valuable as an average teacher. Given the resources, attention and public pride high school football generates, they may have a point. Or, perhaps, these salaries are just the latest proof that scholastic athletics have grown way out of hand. You decide.



Not a bad living if you can get it. Anyone know if Texas coaches are required to teach as well?
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 12:06 pm
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:55 am to
Most of them have better coaching staffs than Texas A&M
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:55 am to
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Anyone know if Texas coaches are required to teach as well?


Most of the school's that I've dealt with have every coach teaching other than the athletic director and head coach.
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:57 am to
All a&m, all the time. Even on the MSB
Posted by SaturdayTraditions
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:04 pm to
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Most of the school's that I've dealt with have every coach teaching other than the athletic director and head coach.


The article mentioned a disparity between the salaries of coaches and teachers in that area. I was wondering if the coaches were actually making the teaching average of $51k with a coaching stipend covering the remaining $50k+.

Thanks for clearing it up for me.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:06 pm to
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What does that tell us? That some Houston schools view their football coaches are roughly twice as valuable as an average teacher. Given the resources, attention and public pride high school football generates, they may have a point. Or, perhaps, these salaries are just the latest proof that scholastic athletics have grown way out of hand. You decide.


I certainly have no clue about Houston high school football, but maybe the teams generates revenue to support the salaries?
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:09 pm to
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What does that tell us? That some Houston schools view their football coaches are roughly twice as valuable as an average teacher.


Maybe it's because they do FAR MORE WORK than the average teacher.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:10 pm to
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I certainly have no clue about Houston high school football, but maybe the teams generates revenue to support the salaries?


I don't think that's how it works, could be wrong though, but from what that I understand....

The funds raised the by the sporting events I believe go back into the school's general fund to be used and spread about all of the school's sports departments. The salaries are typically generated by the area that the school is in.

Someone coaching at a Dallas ISD school is going to make much less than the Allen head coach just because of ISD taxes and what not.

I reference Dallas schools because I'm not familiar with whether or not HISD schools are shitty or not.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 12:11 pm
Posted by SaturdayTraditions
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:18 pm to
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Maybe it's because they do FAR MORE WORK than the average teacher.


I don't doubt that these coaches put in work, but you are kidding yourself if you think teachers only work 7AM-3PM for 9 months a year. In fact, from my experience coaching and teaching, the majority of coaches work MUCH less than their teaching counterparts.
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:21 pm to
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Maybe it's because they do FAR MORE WORK than the average teacher.


It's my understanding a lot of these coaches don't have classrooms, they just coach football
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:23 pm to
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the majority of coaches work MUCH less than their teaching counterparts.


Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:27 pm to
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the majority of coaches work MUCH less than their teaching counterparts.


That's simply not true. I've coached at the middle school level the last 3 years as a side job/just to help out. The coaches go to all the same meetings, teach for 5-6 class periods, plus put in 3-4 hours of board work/film study/weights/on field practice time. Then go home and do all the same lesson planning/grading papers that other teachers bitch about when saying, "It's more than a 7-3 job!!!!" They coach at least 2 sports as well, so they coach pretty much the entire school year. Then they are at the school 3 days a week for 4-5 hours for weights/conditioning during the summer.

They deserve to make more than other teachers, period.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:28 pm to
What a slanted article. A few issues I have with it and I can only compare it to Georgia. Most head football coaches that I've known were smart enough to get their masters and specialist and can add on an extra $15000 a year. Plus, the ones who make six figures here have an 11 month contract because they are at the school so much and to attract the higher profile coaches. Add in the fact that most of them have been teaching for a minimum of 15 years and you can see where the money begins to grow.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:30 pm to
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The coaches go to all the same meetings, teach for 5-6 class periods, plus put in 3-4 hours of board work/film study/weights/on field practice time. Then go home and do all the same lesson planning/grading papers that other teaches bitch about when saying, "It's more than a 7-3 job!!!!" They coach at least 2 sports as well, so they coach pretty much the entire school year. Then they are at the school 3 days a week for 4-5 hours for weights/conditioning during the summer.

They deserve to make more than other teachers, period.



This.

I've worked with plenty of high school coaches before to know that there are many night's where I woudn't get a phone call for a quote in a story until 2-3 a.m. because they just finished watching film to know what to look for on Saturday when the actual players come in.

That's not counting the other sport that 90 percent of the staff has to coach in the off-season of football, the practice time or the 25 or so days that coaches are basically volunteering to work in the summer for workout programs and 7-on-7.

Posted by barry
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:30 pm to
Teachers won't have their name dragged through the mud on TV, Radio and print if they don't have a great year. Pay them the money.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:30 pm to
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but you are kidding yourself if you think teachers only work 7AM-3PM for 9 months a year.


Correct, but they sure aren't up at the school for 25+ hours a week during the summer.

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In fact, from my experience coaching and teaching, the majority of coaches work MUCH less than their teaching counterparts.




Not in my experience. If you're talking the girls jv tennis coach, then sure. But the head football coach does more for the school than just about anyone there.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:33 pm to
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The article mentioned a disparity between the salaries of coaches and teachers in that area. I was wondering if the coaches were actually making the teaching average of $51k with a coaching stipend covering the remaining $50k+.


Your average head football coach has around 15 years of teaching and at least a masters minimum.
Posted by SaturdayTraditions
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:36 pm to
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That's simply not true. I've coached at the middle school level the last 3 years as a side job/just to help out. The coaches go to all the same meetings, teach for 5-6 class periods, plus put in 3-4 hours of board work/film study/weights/on field practice time. Then go home and do all the same lesson planning/grading papers that other teachers bitch about when saying, "It's more than a 7-3 job!!!!" They coach at least 2 sports as well, so they coach pretty much the entire school year. Then they are at the school 3 days a week for 4-5 hours for weights/conditioning during the summer. They deserve to make more than other teachers, period.


Read the previous posts. It had been deduced that the coaches in this particular article, most likely do NOT teach any classes. I agree that coaches that teach should make more than people who only teach. However, in this particular case for a person who ONLY coaches football to make more than twice what a teacher makes is somewhat absurd.

As a former coach myself, I understand the time commitment that most of these guys make. I understand the summer workouts and film sessions. I understand that it is not a 3 month job with 2-4 hours a day for practice.

I am just stating that I don't see a reason there should be THAT much of a disparity.

As for the coaches who don't do much, I was referring to the coaches that "teach" in the sense that they have four PE classes that they watch each day. Those are the coaches I that don't do near as much work as the average teacher.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:37 pm to
Our HC was also athletic director.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:37 pm to
Yeah they certainly deserve it. I have no issue with this
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