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Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:16 am to The Sad Banana
Just saw this, Astros fans: Astros manager Bo Porter plans to hit Jose Altuve cleanup against right-handers this season.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:17 am to LSU_Cubs
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That's the thing. The Feldman trade netted Strop and Arrieta, both were lost causes in Baltimore, and no one expected either one of them to pan out. Same thing with trading Marshall for Wood...no one expected Wood to become a legit 2 or 3 but he has so far.
Right...but we're not doing the sign and flip this year, not becuase we built for the future this year, but becasue we didn't sign anyone.
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Have faith, my friend. Cubs fans are changing their ways
It's not the fans i'm worried about. It's the aldermen and the businesses that, rightfully so, are worried about their interest.
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Ricketts will spend next year
I don't know that he'll be able to based off of debt structure of the purchase.
I don't think anyone thinks that ricketts doesn't want to field a winner and spend whatever it takes to do it, but i'm not sure he can.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:19 am to Lsuhoohoo
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if he had signed the contract he'd probably be on the team come April 5th because his arbitration years would have been bought out
Exactly, which is why i loved the idea. No need to worry about call up dates for arbitration or super 2. Well i hate it didn't work out, because i thought it was creative and clever and hoped the cubs would follow suit.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:26 am to piggidyphish
I understand the grievance. Springer deserves to be on the team. But because he chose to turn down that contract, he isn't. And that's the fault of the system, not the team. Who can blame them when its beneficial both on the field and financially to send him down? IMO, the dissatisfaction with that system is going to come to a head sooner rather than later and well see a change. So that will be interesting to watch on teams with a lot of upcoming talent in the minors like the cubs.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:29 am to piggidyphish
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I don't know that he'll be able to based off of debt structure of the purchase.
I don't know all the nuts & bolts of it. I know Zell royally screwed him on the contract aspect as well, and it took 3 years just to get out of the horrible contracts he allowed Hendry to give out.
I do know that we were willing to spend for Tanaka, which would've been around 20m-ish/yr. So that tells me Ricketts gave Theo a larger pool to spend on this year alone, but he didn't use it since Tanaka went to the Yankees. They have the money, it's just that right now, the wisest thing would probably be not to spend on an overpaid FA w/ a compensation pick attached to him. Draft picks are friggin gold now.
And ugh, Whittenmeyer. He's getting clowned in Chicago right now because he apparently thinks he knows exactly how much the Cubs are spending on everything, and spilling gloom and doom for the Cubs. He's been anti-Cubs since his buddy Hendry left.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:29 am to Lsuhoohoo
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So that will be interesting to watch on teams with a lot of upcoming talent in the minors like the cubs.
Agreed. I understand that a team can't say 'well we kept him down for another year of control and financial reasons,' but instead they say 'we feel he would benefit from just a little more seasoning in the minors.' But is it ever likely that the deciding authotiry would rule against a team in that situation?
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:32 am to LSU_Cubs
CJ Edwards has front of the rotation stuff. That's a good start. Then you have Arodys Vizcaino, Pierce Johnson, Neil Ramirez to fill out the middle to back end. Shark is a legit SP2 if we keep him around.
Either way, I think the Cubs will be in on some of the high priced SPs in FA.
Either way, I think the Cubs will be in on some of the high priced SPs in FA.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:34 am to GynoSandberg
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CJ Edwards
Pitched a couple days ago.
He said he was so nervous to make his big league start, that Rizzo had to come over to the mound. Rizzo asked him if he wanted to play 1st until the butterflies left
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 11:35 am
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:41 am to LSU_Cubs
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I do know that we were willing to spend for Tanaka, which would've been around 20m-ish/yr.
well the rumor was we hated the new structure of the bid process becuase if it had been the other way (buy the exclusive rights to negotiate) then get a cheaper contract, like darvish, the front end money to buy the rights wouldn't have been subject to the limitations that he's under...again, i never saw anything credible, just speculation.
I'm sure the cubs have the ability to buy a playerm, that's obvious, bid on yu, almost had sanchez, went after ryu and cepedes and signed jackson...i'm wondering if they have the ability to buy multiple players. it's also a bit of a head scratcher that we didn't get any of those guys so even if done cynically, there has to be questions as to aggressivness of some of those attempts. Because we weren't going to be outbid for tanaka...then we were outbid (which i'm fine with).
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it's just that right now, the wisest thing would probably be not to spend on an overpaid FA w/ a compensation pick attached to him. Draft picks are friggin gold now.
I disagree...now is exactly the time, becuase that first round pick is protected. If you're really trying to sell the 'we're just a year away form competing,' then it makes sense to start putting the pieces in place for next few years (Not to mention the added bonus it'd have of not relying on a young castro and rizzo to be offensive and clubhouse leaders). Or are we going to wait until we slowly build up to out of the celler then sign free agents and lose the draft pick because its not protected?
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And ugh, Whittenmeyer. He's getting clowned in Chicago right now because he apparently thinks he knows exactly how much the Cubs are spending on everything, and spilling gloom and doom for the Cubs. He's been anti-Cubs since his buddy Hendry left.
I don't like him either, but he's smart, he's not vindictive towards the cubs, he just doesn't pump the sunshine, which is why he's disliked by a lot of people.
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 11:46 am
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:43 am to GynoSandberg
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CJ Edwards has front of the rotation stuff
good point.
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Then you have Arodys Vizcaino
After the tommy johns and set back last year i though he was being looked at as more of a closer now, no?
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Shark is a legit SP2 if we keep him around.
I'm ok with trading him. He got a great deal not to go play football and now he thinks he should keep getting sweetheart deals.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:48 am to piggidyphish
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I disagree...now is exactly the time, becuase that first round pick is protected. If you're really trying to sell the 'we're just a year away form competing,' then it makes sense to start putting the pieces in place for next few years (Not to mention the added bonus it'd have of not relying on a young castro and rizzo to be offensive and clubhouse leaders). Or are we going to wait until we slowly build up to out of the celler then sign free agents and lose the draft pick because its not protected?
I tend to agree with you, but it really looks as if that is Theo/Hoyer's approach to it so far.
All we can do as fans is hope to hell it works
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:54 am to piggidyphish
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After the tommy johns and set back last year i though he was being looked at as more of a closer now, no?
You're right. I did not realize that. I am ok with it, though.
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I'm ok with trading him. He got a great deal not to go play football and now he thinks he should keep getting sweetheart deals.
As long as we got some pitching in return. Or his career could be similar to that of Max Scherzer.. a few seasons of showing flashes and then boom, he finally figures it out and becomes a dominant ace.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:56 am to GynoSandberg
I think Viz has a future in the rotation, i think they are just working him back slow via the pen. He's still like 22, so he has years ahead of him.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:01 pm to GynoSandberg
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As long as we got some pitching in return
nah, lets get another 3b out of it.
Obviously i jest. Yea it'd have to be pitching, which from the rumored trades that leak it always seemed that at least one pitcher thatsuper close to the majors is the starting price, tallion, bradley, can't remember the blue jays guys but i seem to remember it being 2 pitchers.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:04 pm to piggidyphish
I still think the braves make sense. I wonder if they'd deal beachy or medlen, or if we'd even want them
nvm, Medlen FA in 16', beachy in 17'
nvm, Medlen FA in 16', beachy in 17'
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:06 pm to piggidyphish
Sanchez/Stroman
I don't think Smarj gets traded unless it's both of the above, or Archie Bradley.
I just don't see Smarj going inside the division for Taillon
I don't think Smarj gets traded unless it's both of the above, or Archie Bradley.
I just don't see Smarj going inside the division for Taillon
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:07 pm to LSU_Cubs
If the Cubs are into trading Samardzija, they need to pillage some team for pitching.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:09 pm to The Sad Banana
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If the Cubs are into trading Samardzija, they need to pillage some team for pitching.
They will. They hold all the cards since he doesn't HAVE to be traded. They can always keep him.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:10 pm to LSU_Cubs
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Sanchez/Stroman
I don't think Toronto deals those two, but I would be all over it if so.
I also don't think Arizona parts with bradley but they may be willing to do shipley and jose martinez or aron blair
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