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re: Congrats NCAA tourney for being the worst way to crown a champ in any sport
Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:58 pm to ohiovol
Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:58 pm to ohiovol
One reason why there are so many good regular season games in basketball, and not in football, is because all good teams WILL make the tourney (oh, a few are left out each year, but 90% make it). If you cut the tourney down to 8 or 16, then bye bye to most compelling regular season games. Can't risk that loss. It will be "play us at our place or don't play at all" and the good programs may play 1 or 2 carefully selected quality ooc series and certainly no home and home against a so-called "mid major".
It's called fear of competition.
There have been numerous football champs who weren't the best team, including some who "won it on the field" like that first Miami team, Georgia Tech that year, etc. I'd say the AP vote before the bowl games has actually been the most accurate in picking "the best" team.
It's called fear of competition.
There have been numerous football champs who weren't the best team, including some who "won it on the field" like that first Miami team, Georgia Tech that year, etc. I'd say the AP vote before the bowl games has actually been the most accurate in picking "the best" team.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 12:01 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:07 am to Tiger in NY
4 in 16 years is one thing, but the first two titles were very different. In 1999, they were a top 5 team and in 2004, it was really just Duke and UCONN, then everyone else. Those were very different teams than the 2011 and 2014 squads.
Hell you could easily argue that the 2005 team and the mid-90s sides with the Marshall brothers and Ray Allen were stronger than the past 2 title teams.
Hell you could easily argue that the 2005 team and the mid-90s sides with the Marshall brothers and Ray Allen were stronger than the past 2 title teams.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:08 am to Overbrook
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If you cut the tourney down to 8 or 16, then bye bye to most compelling regular season games. Can't risk that loss. It will be "play us at our place or don't play at all" and the good programs may play 1 or 2 carefully selected quality ooc series and certainly no home and home against a so-called "mid major".
It's called fear of competition.
That's the sole reason why college football is so exciting. The knowledge that 1 loss could ruin the season. That's what makes college football regular season amazing.
And how in any way would that make college basketball have less compelling games? I think it would be the opposite. Yea a couple out of conference games would suffer, but UNC Duke would be insane,now they have Syracuse. same with Ohio state Michigan state/michigan and wisconsin, same with Louisville/uconn, Florida/Kentucky ect. I really don't know how making the game more important would cause less compelling games
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 12:10 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:13 am to jg8623
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That's the sole reason why college football is so exciting. The knowledge that 1 loss could ruin the season. That's what makes college football regular season amazing.
a lot of people view that differently than you fwiw. it's tough to follow a college football season when your team starts with national title hopes and then drops a game or two early. it's fun to follow a college basketball season all the way through because you are playing for seeding, to get into the tournament, etc...
i see both sides and understand why both are fun, but to a lot of people (not the majority, but a lot), the college football regular season is wayyyyy too meaningul
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:20 am to jg8623
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That's the sole reason why college football is so exciting. The knowledge that 1 loss could ruin the season.
football and basketball are totally different sports. Teams are going to lose basketball games.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:21 am to rockchlkjayhku11
An entire season should outweigh getting hot at the right time. I.E. Wichita St shouldn't be one and done bc Kentucky shot their best game of the year against them. That's not the way to decide a true champ
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 12:22 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:22 am to Keys Open Doors
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4 in 16 years is one thing, but the first two titles were very different. In 1999, they were a top 5 team and in 2004, it was really just Duke and UCONN, then everyone else. Those were very different teams than the 2011 and 2014 squads.
Hell you could easily argue that the 2005 team and the mid-90s sides with the Marshall brothers and Ray Allen were stronger than the past 2 title teams.
agree 100%. In 1999 it was duke and uconn all year as the 2 best teams as well.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:42 am to Tiger in NY
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football and basketball are totally different sports. Teams are going to lose basketball games.
Obviously
I wasnt meaning that they should make the basketball season to where you had to win every game, just to where losing matters a little more than it does now.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:08 am to LSUTigers1986
UCONN should never gave been given 2 home games in the sweet 16.that was total BS
Then UF makes 2 threes the whole game and UK make 13 of 24 FTs and you have a suck azz team win a national title.
Then UF makes 2 threes the whole game and UK make 13 of 24 FTs and you have a suck azz team win a national title.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:12 am to S.E.C. Crazy
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UCONN should never gave been given 2 home games in the sweet 16.that was total BS
They were the 7 seed.
They weren't even supposed to be in those games. I doubt the committee even looked at that.
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Then UF makes 2 threes the whole game and UK make 13 of 24 FTs and you have a suck azz team win a national title.
They are one of the best defensive teams in the country. UF had 3 fricking assists the whole damn game. Kentucky had 7 field goals in the entire 2nd half tonight.
This is what UConn does. They play ugly and they win ugly. It's not like they are a bad team. Top ten in offensive and defensive efficiency, a great FT shooting team, with an elite star. What's so terrible about them? Because they weren't a 1 or 2 seed? They only lost 8 games all year.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 1:13 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:14 am to S.E.C. Crazy
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Then UF makes 2 threes the whole game and UK make 13 of 24 FTs and you have a suck azz team win a national title.
Kentucky has never been a good free throw shooting team. And UConns guards played great d against Florida which causes their low scoring.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:46 am to rockchlkjayhku11
Theres absolutely nothing wrong with the ncaa tournament. As the saying goes in sports the best team doesnt always win but whoever finds a way to win 6 games in that tourney is deserving, always
Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:49 am to BayouBengals03
Uconn simply looked like the better team against florida and kentucky. Nothing was fluky about the game. Their backcourt won them the tournament. Kentuckys guards were just terrible at initiating offense and they missed a shite ton of FTs. You deserve to lose and weve seen free throws decide plenty of big games (2013 finala, kansas/memphis)
Posted on 4/8/14 at 6:06 am to jg8623
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That's the sole reason why college football is so exciting. The knowledge that 1 loss could ruin the season. That's what makes college football regular season amazing.
The knowledge that winning every game could mean nothing makes college football regular season a pile of shite
Posted on 4/8/14 at 6:07 am to Ghazi
If a team that finished 3rd in their conference played for a championship in college football people would riot
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:08 am to ksayetiger
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well actually the champion has to win six games in a row, a little harder than one flukey win
My thoughts exactly. The teams who made it to the title game earned their way there especially UK with the gauntlet of teams they had to go through.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:16 am to Vegas Eddie
quote:2011 bama?
If a team that finished 3rd in their conference played for a championship in college football people would riot
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:22 am to joeyb147
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2011 bama?
Pretty sure LSU fans torched some cars
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:25 am to joeyb147
Lsu and Bama were clearly the 2 best teams in the country that year. I'm an lsu fan and I'll admit that.
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