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re: Can somebody fill me in on the whole UAB football thing?

Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:09 am to
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:09 am to
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Actually they do. Alabama football received 5.5million from the university system and only paid back 4.4 million in 2012. Therefore Alabama is a welfare queen and shoudl close down.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander

Alabama's athletic department made over $20 million last year.
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30098 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:11 am to
Don't listen to bama fans on this.

Here's a good article

LINK
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30098 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:12 am to
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they actually had 20k+ for a couple of games..



They had 30k for a couple games

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doesn't change the fact that it's a huge money pit and this will allow UAB to cut some other title IX "sports"


I wouldn't say huge, plenty of others schools lose a lot more, this isn't about title IX at all.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:14 am to
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For all the Auburn and LSU fans who are desperate to save UAB's football program here ya go. Put your money where your mouth is:

UAB Donations


Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30098 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:15 am to
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For all the Auburn and LSU fans who are desperate to save UAB's football program here ya go. Put your money where your mouth is:


You do know they just set up a football foundation, and had funds to set up and indoor practice facility but the administration literally would not take it?
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17026 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:36 am to
It's official- they are shutting down UAB football.

Source: ESPN radio.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20764 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:41 am to
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It's official- they are shutting down UAB football.


Time to start up Rammer Jammer....

In all seriousness, UAB football is an afterthought in Bham. You could build a small stadium but that doesn't mean it would do any good. People in Birmingham aren't going to skip watching an Alabama or Auburn game so they can go watch UAB. This isn't the same as the Barons building a stadium downtown and people go in the summertime when football season isn't in going on.

UAB should focus all of their attention on basketball...where they have a realistic shot of not just competing, but dominating Alabama and Auburn.
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2662 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:42 am to
time to rammer jammer UAB... BOOOM!
Posted by WrongCouch
NC
Member since Aug 2011
68 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:43 am to
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I don't understand why the UAT fans are so giddy about people like Bryant Jr slapping UAB around.


It is weird. A strong UAB only helps their university system as a whole. By eventually killing off the athletic department and turning UAB back to a true commuter school will at best, only be a small gain for Tuscaloosa (and Auburn actually) and a long term hit on the university system as a whole. UAB is already on shaky ground in terms of competition for the best researchers, grant funding, residents and fellows for anything medically or science related.

Birmingham has already shown with regions field that moving a stadium to a better location drums up more support. Same with railroad park, it brings a reason to be downtown. Taking away anything from helping make Birmingham better will hurt the school and eventually the system. Anybody saying anything else is being disingenuous.

Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17026 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:43 am to
Would they have to drop out of C-USA with no football, or is that not a requirement for the conference?
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2662 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:45 am to
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Would they have to drop out of C-USA with no football, or is that not a requirement for the conference?


i believe that is the case..
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20764 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:45 am to
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Would they have to drop out of C-USA with no football, or is that not a requirement for the conference?


I think they will have to drop out. Which maybe gives them a chance to join a basketball centric conference.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12738 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:48 am to
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Would they have to drop out of C-USA with no football, or is that not a requirement for the conference?


I don't think C-USA has any non football members. They might end up back in the Sun Belt. With UA-Little Rock and UT Arlington in the Belt with no football, it would make sense. Idaho and NM State are football only members. And they were a previous member, way back before C-USA started.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33525 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:50 am to
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Why would you pay out the arse for a program with zero support.
shite its hard for a program you dont give money to to have an opportunity to gain support
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:53 am to
Why can't they just drop down to FCS and then they don't "compete?" Why are they going scorched Earth on their arse? Is there an enrollment stipulation or something? I mean Sam Houston is approaching 20K students and they're in FCS.
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30098 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:55 am to
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UAB should focus all of their attention on basketball...where they have a realistic shot of not just competing, but dominating Alabama and Auburn.


herp derp, there is no where for basketball to go without football.
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30098 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:57 am to
And for those that think UAB football is a money pit.

LINK

Contention: UAB is losing far more on athletics than other schools.

Verdict: False. According to an AL.com analysis of the USA Today data, 125 schools have athletic programs subsidized at a higher percentage than UAB. UAB's subsidy is about the same as Colorado State, Ohio, Virginia Commonwealth or New Hampshire. Some 33 schools are subsidized at higher dollar figures, including Cincinnati, Kent State, James Madison and Houston. Rutgers and UNLV actually posted double the subsidy as UAB.

If you take the subsidies out of the mix and look simply at the bottom line, 36 schools across the country are hemorrhaging more than UAB. Rutgers and UNLV are bleeding money at twice the rate of UAB.



Kristi Dosh of Campus Insiders reports that UAB's $7.2 million in football revenue last year ranked 98th overall in the Football Bowl Subdivision. Troy University pulled in less revenue, with $6.7 million, and South Alabama earned only $5.8 million.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20764 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:57 am to
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Birmingham has already shown with regions field that moving a stadium to a better location drums up more support. Same with railroad park, it brings a reason to be downtown. Taking away anything from helping make Birmingham better will hurt the school and eventually the system. Anybody saying anything else is being disingenuous.


I was the biggest supporter of building a baseball stadium downtown. It made sense. For Barons games, people bring their families and it is an event during the summer time. That's what minor league baseball specializes in. UAB building a small stadium would not have the same effect. Sure, a stadium would be better than some abandoned warehouse, but its not like growth downtown will be hampered by the lack of UAB football. In the fall, Birmingham is focused on college football....but that doesn't mean it is (or could be) focused on UAB football. Fans aren't going to miss Bama or AU games in order to watch UAB play Marshall.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42566 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:02 pm to
I live 10 mins from UABs campus. If they had a stadium in a safe part of town, I would have season tickets. No way I am taking my two small kids to LF. We already attend UAB baseball, and Barons games.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40136 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:10 pm to
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Alabama's athletic department made over $20 million last year.



So maybe they should be more fiscally responsible and pay the school back instead of putting in a waterfall.
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