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re: Black College Football (HBCU) is Dying
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:29 pm to TigerStripes06
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:29 pm to TigerStripes06
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The delegation that would is applying said pressure doesn't have enough clout to do anything about a closure except scream racism.
That's what they did.
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Which, I guess is pressure enough these days.
It was enough.
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:30 pm to ProjectP2294
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I'm shocked that an obsolete institution is dying off.
This.
"Solidarity" as the OP said? Is this 1972?
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:31 pm to castorinho
Oui, je parle un peu francais
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:32 pm to OleWar
A lot of it has to do with Alumni support. The graduates of black colleges don't make the kind of money that allows them to donate to the athletic dept.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:33 pm to SprintFun
In some places in the south 1972 may be generous, compared to Ohio
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:39 pm to OleWar
When I saw this topic post I automatically knew some people in this thread were going to take this article the wrong way.... 
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:44 pm to 805tiger
quote:What's the "wrong way"?
When I saw this topic post I automatically knew some people in this thread were going to take this article the wrong way....
It can't be worse than the veiled racism of the "article" author.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:45 pm to Zach
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A lot of it has to do with Alumni support. The graduates of black colleges don't make the kind of money that allows them to donate to the athletic dept.
thats not true, most just choose not to b/c they no real connection to the schools athletics. Just about every person i knew who went to an HBCU was a fan of a major D1 programs.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:50 pm to RemouladeSawce
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What's the "wrong way"?
A few of the posters started to rag the universities on academics when this topic has nothing to do with academics. IMO some people on here think because this guy wrote this article black recruits may start changing their mind on going to SEC schools so some posters are taking this too seriously.
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:51 pm to Zach
And this is why I think the guy who wrote the article and college administrators have to be kicking themselves. There was a good number of athletes produced in the 1970s and 80s, who could have been used to help promote recruitment, donate, revenue etc. I mean shite Oprah went to an HBCU and it seems they could have used the political process to distort the market to their advantage.
And you look at the large institutions making bank on their athletics and funding their universities as a whole. You think the HBCUs would have some sense of the economic advantage of exploiting their own human capital to their own advantage.
And you look at the large institutions making bank on their athletics and funding their universities as a whole. You think the HBCUs would have some sense of the economic advantage of exploiting their own human capital to their own advantage.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:55 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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thats not true, most just choose not to b/c they no real connection to the schools athletics
Now that is pretty interesting.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:58 pm to 805tiger
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A few of the posters started to rag the universities on academics when this topic has nothing to do with academics. IMO some people on here think because this guy wrote this article black recruits may start changing their mind on going to SEC schools so some posters are taking this too seriously.
I mentioned academics as an aside. Broader point is that HBCs compare unfavorably to most major institutions in almost all departments. Black kids born in the 90s aren't going to choose a school with fewer resources, poorer facilities, and a non-existent national profile simply because successful blacks once had few other options. That type of "pride and solidarity" doesn't exist--thankfully.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:58 pm to OleWar
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but I have always found it interesting that more African American athletes have not shown more solidarity with these institutions
When you consider what the civil rights movement was about, it's not that interesting.
What was one of the major themes of the civil rights movement? Blacks wanted access to the best. They wanted access to mainstream white America, to it's schools, universities, hotels, restaurants, neighborhoods,etc. Why? Because those are the best. Just about everything that was deemed "black" was inferior.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:58 pm to OleWar
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You think the HBCUs would have some sense of the economic advantage of exploiting their own human capital to their own advantage.
It's certainly never been done before throughout history.
/sarcasm
Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:06 pm to 805tiger
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IMO some people on here think because this guy wrote this article black recruits may start changing their mind on going to SEC schools
I don't think anyone believes this
Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:09 pm to 805tiger
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IMO some people on here think because this guy wrote this article black recruits may start changing their mind on going to SEC schools so some posters are taking this too seriously.
I don't want you to take this the "wrong way" but that's probably one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
Do you honestly thing anyone around here worries about Bama or lsu or Florida losing recruits to Alcorn, Alabama A&M or southern?
"I could have gone to Alabama and won championships but the tradition of Alcorn state and the lure of Lorman, Mississippi kept me awake at night." Said by no one. Ever.
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:16 pm to TigerStripes06
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"I could have gone to Alabama and won championships but the tradition of Alcorn state and the lure of Lorman, Mississippi kept me awake at night." Said by no one. Ever.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:23 pm to Rocket
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When you consider what the civil rights movement was about, it's not that interesting.
What was one of the major themes of the civil rights movement? Blacks wanted access to the best. They wanted access to mainstream white America, to it's schools, universities, hotels, restaurants, neighborhoods,etc. Why? Because those are the best. Just about everything that was deemed "black" was inferior.
All of this.
There is nothing that is " problematic" when you look at the state of HBCUs. In fact, it's a testament to how far we've come WRT race relations.
We should be celebrating the fact that black kids are choosing to go elsewhere.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:36 pm to BilJ
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probably 80% of SU's undergrads are there for a month or so to collect pell grant money and then stop going
I'm sure you pulled this statistic clearly out of your arse and your trying to debase an entire ethnic group purely off of sterotypical bullshite.
Realistically speaking, if one were to look the statistics of the graduation rate as a whole for all colleges and universities, I promise you at least 60% of those who do enter college doesn't finish. College isn't for everyone and multiple things happen in life that prevents people from finish.
I'm not an advocate of HBCUs. The only reason I went to SU was because I was following my friends and because my mother wouldn't allow me to go to the school I wanted to go to at Texas A&M in College Station. I personally would never send my kids to a HBCU and it has nothing to do with the education I received there. I think the education I received was pretty damn good and I know just as much as my peers who went to bigger more well known schools. My reason for not allowing my kids to attend a HBCU is becuase going there shelters you from real world experiences. One needs to learn how to interact, communicate, and relate to/with a diverse group of people. This alone can make or break your career.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:44 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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A big issue was how they never played in the 1-AA playoffs until a few years ago and still some leagues don't send a team even though they are like 10-2
Why?
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But desegregation's untold ravaging of black communities and their talent pool...
Wait. Desegregation a the problem now?
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