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re: Big 12 Commissioner Blasts Washington, Ohio State Selections to CFB Playoff
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:00 pm to KillerNut9
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:00 pm to KillerNut9
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And this moron commissioner refused to declare a sole conference champion, which I think played into it quite a bit.
I don't know why you keep calling him a moron. If there had been upsets in the CCGs, both TCU and Baylor could've gotten in. There was no benefit for him declare one over the other.
If he only pushed Baylor based on head-to-head, he's instantly eliminating his conference champion with the better resume from consideration.
Not to mention TCU and the other members of the Big XII would've flipped out if they saw their own commissioner displaying favoritism for Baylor.
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:02 pm to dukke v
It seems the committee is trying to find teams to give Bama a game.
Fine by me, no one wants to watch two blowouts on the way to the title.
In that regard I would have liked to see Michigan at #4... Harbaugh vs. Saban.
But I know they couldn't keep UW out unless they stuck to their 2014 criteria...you can't schedule a playoff spot.
Fine by me, no one wants to watch two blowouts on the way to the title.
In that regard I would have liked to see Michigan at #4... Harbaugh vs. Saban.
But I know they couldn't keep UW out unless they stuck to their 2014 criteria...you can't schedule a playoff spot.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:21 pm to HailToTheChiz
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They have always said a conference championship is not a requirement and is only factored in as a tiebreaker (along with others factors) if they consider the two teams equal.
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No they change their vague criteria every year
There needs to be a set list
Yeah, the mandate statement does say something about conference championships and head to head being "tiebreakers" between teams that "look similar."
However, it also includes "strength of schedule" in that "tiebreakers" statement.
It's really all pretty vague to be honest as one could say that most of the teams that have "separated" themselves according to the committee to the point of not needing the "tiebreaker" have done so by excelling against a tougher "strength of schedule."
In general though, I don't think the committee has really gotten the 4 teams all that wrong this year or in the past -- especially keeping in mind that the biggest benefit of the 4 team playoff is still to be sure you don't have 3 undefeated teams with one being left out.
It occurs to me that the biggest problem with the committee is that the statements made by the chairperson every year seem so "off the cuff" and inconsistent.
If this year, they simply stated:
1. Ohio St is in because of three wins (two on the road) over teams we consider Top10 opposition. Regardless of the loss at Penn State that was just considered too strong compared to the rest of the teams. Period.
2. Our real debate came down to Washington vs Penn State for the final spot and that was a "razor thin" decision due to Penn State scheduling a much tougher OOC slate.
However, in the end, Washington got the slightest of nods because we feel that their conference schedule did allow them to play five games against quality opponents and their 4-1 record and overall performance (based on performance metrics ect) in those games was viewed as ever so slightly stronger than Penn St's overall performance (based on performance metrics ect) in going 5-2 against teams that we consider quality wins.
We would like to emphasize that a two loss Penn State was only this close to a one loss Washington due to their tough out of conference schedule as it came very close to "compensating" for the extra loss.
You could still argue with the decision--especially in that one has to believe that simply increasing "geographical/conference representation" has to play a part even though they certainly can't say that -- but it would add some clarity and consistency if they simply kept to same terminology every year.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:30 pm to Bench McElroy
Bowlsby has moved the goalposts more than the committee. The Big 12 tried to market itself as unique in 2014 because all 10 teams played each other. They came up with the "One True Champion" slogan, but then dropped it at the end of the season & declared co-champions because TCU was ranked a couple spots higher than Baylor at the end of the season, but lost to Baylor.
They will add a conference championship game next year. Why? It isn't to determine a champion. The Big 12 round robin regular season does that. Bowlsby has consistently stated it is to add a 13th data point. It was to help teams in the Big 12 like Baylor that schedule no decent OoC games. It gives them one more game against a quality opponent.
They will add a conference championship game next year. Why? It isn't to determine a champion. The Big 12 round robin regular season does that. Bowlsby has consistently stated it is to add a 13th data point. It was to help teams in the Big 12 like Baylor that schedule no decent OoC games. It gives them one more game against a quality opponent.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:12 pm to Buckeye06
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I mean he can't argue Ohio State, since Ohio State went to Oklahoma and beat his conference champ by 3 TDs
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:53 am to Ghost of Colby
Why have a conference championship? It clearly doesn't matter
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:11 am to Dr RC
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Also, let's be real here. We all know that if it was Indiana or Rutgers in Ohio State's place they would have been passed over and if it had been Texas/OU instead of Baylor/TCU in '14 one of them would have got in.
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:21 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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He's clearly talking about both.
Yep and I believe he has a legit beef
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:18 am to LanierSpots
Bowlsby should shut the hell up. He's the incompetent idiot who says every game matters yet couldn't name a Conference champ in 14 despite one co-champ beating the other head to head. Then this year with the whole expansion debacle, no leadership what so ever.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:33 am to double d
Big 12 sucks. This just makes it more inevitable that OU leaves that conference the first chance they get.
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