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re: Bears repeating every year. Private schools should not be
Posted on 12/12/09 at 12:24 am to philabuck
Posted on 12/12/09 at 12:24 am to philabuck
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DIII and above should just be renamed to the Ohio Catholic Association State Playoffs
DI isn't too bad because most of them get lumped into the same division..
Yeah. I mean, D-I still has its fair share of dominant Catholic schools with the Cincy schools and schools like St. Iggy and St Ed's in Cleveland, but it's still pretty competitive all around, and they don't run away with it all the time. This year, 3 of the 4 semifinalists and both state finalists in D-I were public schools.
The lower divisions, though, yeah, because the public schools they're competing against just don't have enough kids to overcome the recruiting.
Even in D-I, though, a lot of the really good public schools "recruit" or at least the program naturally recruits for itself. For example, at Coffman, a lot of my teammates (probably around 10, which is a pretty large #, if you think about it) moved into the district or open-enrolled from one of the other two Dublin High Schools just to play football here, cause they see guys like Brady Quinn, Chinedum Ndukwe, Mike Adams, Jake Stoneburner, etc come out of our program and know our coach does a really good job of helping guys in the recruiting process for college.
Also, I'm almost sure the majority of the guys that play for Ted Ginn at Glenville didn't originally live (or still don't... they open-enrolled) in the Glenville district of Cleveland. He either recruited them, or once again the program/reputation recruited for itself.
Just the way it is.
This post was edited on 12/12/09 at 12:27 am
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Posted on 12/12/09 at 1:00 am to GerryDiNardo
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GerryDinardo
If you take your last English in a block your senior year, you finish that English at midterm. You could also block III & IV your junior year and if you have the rest of the credits, then you'll meet the requirements to graduate. I think for the very few people who did at my school, I think they even took them simultaneously considering the difference in curriculum it doesn't conflict.
Posted on 12/12/09 at 7:49 am to Buckeye Fan 19
I've read all these posts and lets face it. Tommy Henry and the LHSAA created this problem and did nothing to stop it, now we have what we have, these schools rape areas of their best players. Don't forget the parents have to approve of them going and they live in the community, I wonder what people in the community think? I'm sure the parents are thinking my son will be an NFL player one day and should go to this football factory to get the best.
As far as those factories winning state championships the dome looked pretty empty for the game last night between evangel and JC. Obviously no one cared, I for one didn't care about either team or their records, there tainted as far as I'm concerned, no respect for them!
Give me public school school games anyday, town vs town, good hometown spirit,places that are rich in history, kids that have been together their whole lives and are playing for their communities and the community knows them and loves them and follows them in droves when they are out of town. Thats high school sports!!! frankly speaking, i don't care if my high school wins a state championship or not, I will be out there every week cheering them on and so will our community, I'll say one last thing, our small rural school has had more NFL players than JC and evangel over the years. Have a great day!!!
As far as those factories winning state championships the dome looked pretty empty for the game last night between evangel and JC. Obviously no one cared, I for one didn't care about either team or their records, there tainted as far as I'm concerned, no respect for them!
Give me public school school games anyday, town vs town, good hometown spirit,places that are rich in history, kids that have been together their whole lives and are playing for their communities and the community knows them and loves them and follows them in droves when they are out of town. Thats high school sports!!! frankly speaking, i don't care if my high school wins a state championship or not, I will be out there every week cheering them on and so will our community, I'll say one last thing, our small rural school has had more NFL players than JC and evangel over the years. Have a great day!!!
Posted on 12/12/09 at 7:51 am to Kong
Why don't they have seperate divions for public and parochial schoools. They live by different rules re recruiting right?
Posted on 12/12/09 at 7:57 am to Rex
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Congratulations to Evangel? Pfffft. They have never competed on a level playing field.
You are kidding, right? Evangel played in 5A until everyone got their panties in a twist.
Posted on 12/12/09 at 8:02 am to Zach
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Is it unfair because Jesus is helping the private school, Rex?
Posted on 12/12/09 at 8:07 am to specs1
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My suggestion:
Open Class. This class would be in addition to the 1 a - 5a classes.
Although I would love to see this, I don't believe it would work. First, I believe you would have to drop 5A so the playoffs in every class "aren't watered dow" Second, I don't believe the bigger schools would participate in the open class, since they wanted Evangel, JC, and like teams to go back to their class.
Posted on 12/12/09 at 8:10 am to TigerFanatic1
Why can't schools play according to their enrollment makes sense. Also sperate Public and parochial schools so even playing field. Small schools play other small schools.
Simple
Simple
Posted on 12/12/09 at 8:11 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
I don't know why they can't as I don't make the rules. I am just stating what I would like to see.
Posted on 12/12/09 at 8:25 am to TigerFanatic1
what exactly are private schools repeating?
2008 Champions:
5A - Destrehan
4A - Belle Chase
3A - Lutcher
2A - John Curtis
1A - South Plaquemines
2007 Champions:
5A - Destrehan
4A - Bastrop
3A - Parkview
2A - John Curtis
1A - South Plaquemines
So in the last 2 years, a public school has won the championship 70% of the time
and the problem is what again?
2008 Champions:
5A - Destrehan
4A - Belle Chase
3A - Lutcher
2A - John Curtis
1A - South Plaquemines
2007 Champions:
5A - Destrehan
4A - Bastrop
3A - Parkview
2A - John Curtis
1A - South Plaquemines
So in the last 2 years, a public school has won the championship 70% of the time
and the problem is what again?
Posted on 12/12/09 at 8:56 am to Rex
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Bears repeating every year. Private schools should not be
allowed to compete for Louisiana's high school championships with public schools. It is GROSSLY unfair.
Congratulations to Evangel? Pfffft. They have never competed on a level playing field
if you get kneed in the pussy can you still have children?
Posted on 12/12/09 at 8:56 am to GerryDiNardo
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Anyone who thinks a private school and public school compete on level playing fields in Louisiana High School Sports, you're kidding yourself.
At a public school, you couldn't graduate and take gym for 50% of your classes your senior year (here's looking at you Evangel).
I find it to be the opposite. When I was a senior at a private high school I only needed two classes to meet louisiana's high school grad requirements. I was required to take 8 classes by the school.
What you're talking about is public school dummies who are fighting tooth and nail their senior year to get enough credits to graduate. That's the students fault.
Posted on 12/12/09 at 9:04 am to SPEEDY
Good post Speedy. Capitol was a two point conversion away from beating Evangel. Rexy is just trying to start shite like always.
Posted on 12/12/09 at 9:16 am to SPEEDY
Speedy,
What say you about an Open Class in addition to 1a - 5a, w/ open class playing out of state teams at least 3 times per year?
What say you about an Open Class in addition to 1a - 5a, w/ open class playing out of state teams at least 3 times per year?
Posted on 12/12/09 at 9:18 am to specs1
Why can't small schools play small schools?
Group1,2 ,3 and 4 large schools
Para a, b and C
This is how New Jersey does it. All the power in the State is in Parachial A (Don Bosco, St. peters Prep, etc.)
Group1,2 ,3 and 4 large schools
Para a, b and C
This is how New Jersey does it. All the power in the State is in Parachial A (Don Bosco, St. peters Prep, etc.)
Posted on 12/12/09 at 9:25 am to HeadSlash
First of all, I can think of specific examples of both public and private schools recruiting. I also know of public schools allowing students in special education programs to play football.
Second of all, the LHSAA really needs to take a look at schools that are accredited by LDOE but are only accredited as GED schools. Schools that are accredited as GED schools do not have to follow the same course curriculum requirements as other schools. These GED accredited schools are basically ACT and SAT prep schools. The students that play football at the GED accredited schools can stay in class each day for minimal time and spend most of the day practicing football.
Second of all, the LHSAA really needs to take a look at schools that are accredited by LDOE but are only accredited as GED schools. Schools that are accredited as GED schools do not have to follow the same course curriculum requirements as other schools. These GED accredited schools are basically ACT and SAT prep schools. The students that play football at the GED accredited schools can stay in class each day for minimal time and spend most of the day practicing football.
Posted on 12/12/09 at 9:26 am to Slick Tiger
Isn't public school recruiting illegal?
Posted on 12/12/09 at 9:52 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
1) Public schools recruit too.
2) Notre Dame won last night. If you think that team was a bunch of recruits, you were not watching.
3) Spliting Public and Private would create some BAD football week to week.
Curtis and Evangel are the only two "problems". I have no problem watching them fight it out year to year.
2) Notre Dame won last night. If you think that team was a bunch of recruits, you were not watching.
3) Spliting Public and Private would create some BAD football week to week.
Curtis and Evangel are the only two "problems". I have no problem watching them fight it out year to year.
Posted on 12/12/09 at 9:56 am to SPEEDY
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So in the last 2 years, a public school has won the championship 70% of the time
and the problem is what again?
Speedy, has anyone else mentioned that 5 of the 6 teams that are playing today are public? The 1 private school is Rummel who is making their first trip to the Dome.
Evangel and Curtis were sent to 2A purgatory to limit their money. If you watched the game last night you can see why. That place was empty compared to what you'll see tonight.
Posted on 12/12/09 at 10:23 am to JJ27
west monroe is is 17-0 vs catholic schools
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