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re: BCS Super Bowl: Falcons vs. Patriots...

Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:16 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:16 pm to
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fluke games happen


NOT IF YOU'RE THE BEST TEAM!!!

ARGHHH!!!!
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10326 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:17 pm to
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who was playing for a shot at the title in the fiesta?


UConn and Seattle got just as close to a title. Except UConn and the Big East made a shite ton more money than Boise and the WAC did. All thanks to the corrupt BCS.
This post was edited on 1/16/11 at 11:19 pm
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10130 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:20 pm to
Why don't we just forget the regular season and have a 32 team playoff and that's it?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422229 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:21 pm to
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UConn and Seattle got just as close to a title.

not true at all

seattle had a shot at the title

UConn played in an exhibition game

not comparable at all

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and the Big East made a shite ton more money than Boise and the WAC did

the amount per team isn't that much

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All thanks to the corrupt BCS.

what is corrupt about a group of bowls making a contract with teams who generate revenue and attract better tv deals?

if BSU and the WAC are complaining about money, why don't they get better deals themselves?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110765 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:23 pm to
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UConn and Seattle got just as close to a title


How?


Thankfully, the BCS has it correct and a team like UCONN had no shot at a title(unlike your claim).
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10326 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:25 pm to
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generate revenue and attract better tv deals


Yeah, the UConn-OU Fiesta did much better than the Boise-OU Fiesta. Much more competitive, too.
Boise and the WAC have one option. Take the shitty deal the BCS puts on the table, or take nothing. Get rid of the BCS, and everyone has an equal seat at the table.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10326 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:28 pm to
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How?


Did either team win one this year? Then they both got just as close. UConn had a shot until they lost. So did Seattle.

If you're going to let an unranked UConn play in a BCS game for winning a shitty conference, why would you keep Seattle out of the playoffs for winning a shitty division? Both teams qualified for their sport's postseason by beating the other crappy teams they happen to be grouped with.
This post was edited on 1/16/11 at 11:29 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:28 pm to
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Boise and the WAC have one option. Take the shitty deal the BCS puts on the table, or take nothing.

why don't they make their own deals to make more money?

i mean i hope you realize that the BCS money the SEC and Big10 get are shite compared to their TV deals and home-game revenue.

trust me they like the BCS money, but a school like LSU gets maybe $3-4M max from the BCS money the SEC receives. that's nothing compared to the $17M or so it gets from the CBS/ESPN deal or the $3-5M per home game

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Get rid of the BCS, and everyone has an equal seat at the table.

if the WAC had an equal seat at the table, it would have a tv deal worth a shite on its own

when the WAC is a producer, it will be able to make its own deals on a level similar to the BCS
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:29 pm to
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If you're going to let an unranked UConn play in a BCS game for winning a shitty conference, why would you keep Seattle out of the playoffs for winning a shitty division?

1 gives you a shot at the title

1 gives you an exhibition game

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Both teams qualified for their sport's pstseason

but only 1 was given a playoff entitlement. only 1 had a shot at the title
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39570 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:30 pm to
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Yeah, the UConn-OU Fiesta did much better than the Boise-OU Fiesta. Much more competitive, too. Boise and the WAC have one option. Take the shitty deal the BCS puts on the table, or take nothing. Get rid of the BCS, and everyone has an equal seat at the table.


If you are against the BCS, you are against freedom of contract, which makes you a commie and I'm sticking to it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110765 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:30 pm to
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Did either team win one this year?


The Panthers got just as close to a title as Oregon did this year. So yea, that logic makes zero sense when you're just playing the result that Seattle lost.

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If you're going to let an unranked UConn play in a BCS game for winning a shitty conference, why would you keep Seattle out of the playoffs for winning a shitty division?


Because one can win a title and one cannot.

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Both teams qualified for their sport's postseason by beating the other crappy teams they happen to be grouped with.


1 qualified for a chance to win a title, 1 did not.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10326 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:33 pm to
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when the WAC is a producer


It will never be a producer, because it is dying. But the Mountain West (which Boise joins next year) could potentially be a producer (it had the #2 team in the final rankings this year) if it wasn't constantly being raided by conferences that have exclusive access to the biggest stage in the sport. Which affects recruiting, TV deals, etc. The 6 BCS leagues have no interest in giving the MWC a seat at the table, despite a proven record of performance, because they have no incentive to split the pie any further. It's much easier to deal with any threats through decapitation than by dealing with them equitably.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10130 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:33 pm to
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Did either team win one this year? Then they both got just as close. UConn had a shot until they lost. So did Seattle.

If you're going to let an unranked UConn play in a BCS game for winning a shitty conference, why would you keep Seattle out of the playoffs for winning a shitty division? Both teams qualified for their sport's postseason by beating the other crappy teams they happen to be grouped with.


You can't be serious
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39570 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:34 pm to
You sound like such a bleeding heart.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10326 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:34 pm to
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makes you a commie


Communism isn't a bad idea, it just hasn't been tried anywhere with the resources and ingenuity to make it work. Americans can do anything, including make communism work. Socialism, too.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10130 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:35 pm to
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Communism isn't a bad idea, it just hasn't been tried anywhere with the resources and ingenuity to make it work. Americans can do anything, including make communism work. Socialism, too.


Starting to make more sense....
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10326 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:36 pm to
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1 qualified for a chance to win a title, 1 did not.


Which is the whole problem. One sport has a playoff, like the rest of the sporting world. One does not. If college football had a playoff (like in 1-AA), UConn would have qualified. Just like Seattle did.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10130 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:37 pm to
A team that has a sub .500 record does not deserve a title shot.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10326 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:38 pm to
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You sound like such a bleeding heart.


Yep, proud Liberal. Not even hiding behind the "progressive" label. But lets try to keep this to sports, and not devolve into ad hominem arguments.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10326 posts
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:39 pm to
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A team that has a sub .500 record does not deserve a title shot.


And they've never gotten won. Seattle will not make the Super Bowl this year. The playoff system works.
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