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re: BCS Super Bowl: Falcons vs. Patriots...
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:24 pm to castorinho
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:24 pm to castorinho
quote:
True. But the sports that do use series, they let way too many teams (NBA, MLB) in. They play 162 and 82 games respectively but still let a shitload of teams in the playoffs.
In regards to the MLB, the more games you play, the more likely you are to distill the total of 8 (same as the NFL - not too many) best teams to make the playoffs. MLB, by far, has the best system for crowning the champ.
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Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:27 pm to cwill
i just wish the MLB spaced out their series so teams had to use all 4-5 starting pitchers, like the regular season
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
The BCS, where a team goes undefeated in the regular season two years in a row and it's meaningless.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the BCS money (which actually isn't that much money) is split by specific rules. each conference gets x dollars for their first team (with all 6 BCS conferences obviously getting an automatic shot at this first set), and you get x dollars for a 2nd team (no 3rd team allowed). non-BCS conferences get x dollars if a member school makes it
playoffs = bigger TV deal likely, which = more money to split
you don't have conference tie-ins with a 4-team playoff, and the conferences won't split money evenly
I see.
Just as an idea what if you just added a games (Cotton) and kept the same BCS rules:
EX:
REGULAR BCS GAMES:
Cotton
Rose
Sugar
PLAYOFFS:
Fiesta
Orange
Championship Game.
No conference can have more than 2 teams etc...
It would seem that the smaller schools would benefit from the added 2 slots.
The main sticking point there is still how to distribute the Championship game money. But its a start.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
Most of the time teams use 4 starters.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:36 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:
The BCS, where a team goes undefeated in the regular season two years in a row and it's meaningless.
This. No way I could get behind a system that leaves any undefeated team out of the running for champion. It makes no sense at the most fundamental of levels.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
i just wish the MLB spaced out their series so teams had to use all 4-5 starting pitchers, like the regular season
There is no real change from the regular season - teams just shorten the rotation and guys go on less rest depending on how critical the game is.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:44 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:But BCS schools went an impressive 2-4 vs. non-BCS schools during this year's bowl season so how can you say a non-BCS school deserves a shot at anything?
This. No way I could get behind a system that leaves any undefeated team out of the running for champion. It makes no sense at the most fundamental of levels.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:46 pm to BayouBengals03
Whoever is using the Patriots vs. Giants SB as an argument FOR the BCS is wrong. If the NFL would have used the BCS that year, the Patriots still would not have been champions. They had their chance, and blew it.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:47 pm to spens
quote:
If the NFL would have used the BCS that year, the Patriots still would not have been champions.
well, the pats/giants is more of an example of a playoff system getting it horribly wrong
but your point is a big wtf
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
How did the playoff system get it wrong? If the Patriots were the best team, why couldn't they beat the Giants?
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:55 pm to spens
the season series was 1-1
flukes happen in 1-game series. it's the nature of the beast
the pro-playoff crowd creates sayings like, "they won when it mattered" or "they proved they belonged" when these flukes happen. guys like me who favor a limited playoff see these games as flukes that should be minimized
flukes happen in 1-game series. it's the nature of the beast
the pro-playoff crowd creates sayings like, "they won when it mattered" or "they proved they belonged" when these flukes happen. guys like me who favor a limited playoff see these games as flukes that should be minimized
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
The only way to eliminate flukes would be having playoff series, like the NBA playoffs, which are impossible in Football.
ETA: I guess you are saying that you eliminate the flukes with the regular season. But then you get into arguments with weak divisions/conferences.
ETA: I guess you are saying that you eliminate the flukes with the regular season. But then you get into arguments with weak divisions/conferences.
This post was edited on 1/16/11 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:08 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:
Why are you selectively choosing one game to judge the falcons' season, and not the previous 16 games they played in the regular season?
Because they played a cupcake schedule. 2 games each against Carolina and Tampa Bay. The NFC West. Cincy and Cleveland. Hell, that's 10-0 without even trying. So they split their "hard" games. Show me a college teams that goes .500 against ranked teams that deserves a title shot.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
people fricking defended the living hell out of awarding divisional champs last week. it blew my mind
But BCS conference champions (like UConn) deserve a BCS bowl bid?????
How is that not the same?
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:13 pm to RockChalkTiger
quote:
How is that not the same?
who was playing for a shot at the title in the fiesta?
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:13 pm to RockChalkTiger
The BCS system makes more sense in the NFL. There are far fewer teams, so for the most part, teams are able to be tested by every team in their conference. The parody in the NFL is much greater and any middle of the road team can beat the best team. So it makes perfect sense to use the BCS formula and place more importance on a 16 game schedule than on single game elimination playoff.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:14 pm to Roaad
quote:the best teams can win a playoff if they're really the best
Let the best teams play for the Championship. . .
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:15 pm to KingofthePoint
CFB is tiered, which makes it easy to group the top teams. very rarely are there more than 2-3 teams who can even argue they deserve a shot to win it all
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:15 pm to Acreboy
quote:
the best teams can win a playoff if they're really the best
fluke games happen
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