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Barkley says he never "cheated" to get a title
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:30 am
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:30 am
Crying about losing and then Teaming up with Hakeem and Clyde in Houston apparently doesn't count....discuss. LINK
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:31 am to dabigfella
He didn't get a title, so technically, he's correct. 
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:33 am to dabigfella
1. He doesn't have a title.
2. Who cheated?
2. Who cheated?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:33 am to dabigfella
Let's not forget him taking a pay cut to $1m so the rockets could add pippen, that's not cheating either I suppose
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:40 am to dabigfella
yeah barkley was part of one of the original "super teamups"
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:45 am to dabigfella
quote:
"We develop this thing where you keep telling these guys, 'Hey man, if you don't win a championship you're a bum.' I don't feel like a bum," he said. "I'm pretty sure Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone and John Stockton -- we think we're pretty damn good. We could have played with some of those other guys and kind of cheated our way to a championship. But there is this thing that started with this new generation where these guys feel so much pressure. Everybody wants to win.
I do agree with him on this.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:51 am to RLDSC FAN
the people who created the "titles" argument are why these teams form
i'm thinking of writing an article on that
you reap what you sow, irrational-emotional thinkers
you want to promote the irrationality of using team stats to define players' careers? well then players will adapt to that paradigm to increase their shot at a title. you don't get to have it both ways
i'm thinking of writing an article on that
you reap what you sow, irrational-emotional thinkers
you want to promote the irrationality of using team stats to define players' careers? well then players will adapt to that paradigm to increase their shot at a title. you don't get to have it both ways
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:52 am to RLDSC FAN
At the end of the day, those guys he's whining about will have championships and he and the guys he's talking about don't.
That's what history will remember, so I don't get what he's rambling about.
That's what history will remember, so I don't get what he's rambling about.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:52 am to therick711
quote:
He didn't get a title, so technically, he's correct.
for the More Sports board this one is genius.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:2010 ushered in a whole new way of thinking, a line we had never heard before...don't just win a title, win a title the hard way, don't try and put yourself in the best position to win.
you want to promote the irrationality of using team stats to define players' careers? well then players will adapt to that paradigm to increase their shot at a title. you don't get to have it both ways
Make sure to put that line in your article and give me a shoutout!
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:54 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:
"We develop this thing where you keep telling these guys, 'Hey man, if you don't win a championship you're a bum.' I don't feel like a bum," he said. "I'm pretty sure Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone and John Stockton -- we think we're pretty damn good. We could have played with some of those other guys and kind of cheated our way to a championship. But there is this thing that started with this new generation where these guys feel so much pressure. Everybody wants to win.
They may not have left their teams, but I bet they would more than willing to bring in other superstars to their team if the opportunity was there.
If David Robinson were a FA in the 90s and weighed his options, Stockton and Malone would be leading a parade for the Admiral to join them.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:56 am to Tarik One
quote:Also, it's an easy stance for them because from what I understand, the salary cap intricacies were different than, and forming super teams like we see today wasn't even really an option.
They may not have left their teams, but I bet they would more than willing to bring in other superstars to their team if the opportunity was there. If David Robinson were a FA in the 90s and weighed his options, Stockton and Malone would be leading a parade for the Admiral to join them.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:58 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the people who created the "titles" argument are why these teams form
i'm thinking of writing an article on that
you reap what you sow, irrational-emotional thinkers
you want to promote the irrationality of using team stats to define players' careers? well then players will adapt to that paradigm to increase their shot at a title. you don't get to have it both ways
Well said. Post your article once it's complete.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:00 am to dabigfella
Barkley never did ANYTHING to get a title so...
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:01 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:Would never call it cheating
We could have played with some of those other guys and kind of cheated our way to a championship.
quote:Absolutely true. Lebron going to MIA made it OK for guys to team up and shirk the call to all time greatness that could come with leading a non super friend team to titles.
But there is this thing that started with this new generation where these guys feel so much pressure.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:02 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the people who created the "titles" argument are why these teams form
Or maybe, you know, dudes just want to win.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:03 am to dabigfella
He was out of his prime by the . Kinda different. All three were out of their prime at that time
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:06 am to Boomshockalocka
The other problem isn't necessarily on the players, but moreso the media. Yeah, those names he mentioned are some of the best to play the game, but when analysts look at Hall of Fame credentials, what's normally the first question they ask? "Does he have a title?" If he doesn't, it's like they are dropped down a few levels even before being considered.
I can't really think of a name where they likely missed their Hall of Fame bid due to going title-less, but it's still one of the more prominent questions always asked
I can't really think of a name where they likely missed their Hall of Fame bid due to going title-less, but it's still one of the more prominent questions always asked
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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you reap what you sow, irrational-emotional thinkers
And inconsistent to that as well.
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