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re: Any news on LHSAA split?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 6:50 am to chalmetteowl
Posted on 5/24/16 at 6:50 am to chalmetteowl
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what they should do is change back one class at a time... i really only care if 5A is together.
protecting parochial interests and shitting on others is what got us here in the first place.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 6:51 am to HarrisLetsRide
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Just curious, what's the negative of B&C combining? Do you realize how far some of these rural schools are traveling for district games?
forcing hand for B and C schools voting overwhelming in favor of football split when they don't even play football.......
many know this is just payback
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:32 am to HarrisLetsRide
Why do we need to combine b and c? That would make it the largest class in the state with over 70 + schools? what is the point? They don't have football and the only sports they have their own championships are running, basketball, and baseball/softball.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:34 am to choupiquesushi
You call it a payback, but b and c were being threatened to get combined if they didn't vote for the split...
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:43 am to bigpetedatiga
that's why i say, the exec. committee is unnecessarily pissing them off for what? and it's going to impact the chances of the plan on June 8th passing
i also don't understand why they're going with metro and rural over the split they already have. if private schools leave, blame the executive committee for approving this clusterfrick that won't pass over plans that could... it makes me wonder about their true intentions
what i would do is have all schools from 5A to C vote on a plan to reunite 4A and 5A and keep the split as is for all other schools, then threaten to revoke the split for all if they don't pass it. the small schools would vote yes bc they want to keep what they have. nothing will happen after that bc everyone has what they want in the end.
i also don't understand why they're going with metro and rural over the split they already have. if private schools leave, blame the executive committee for approving this clusterfrick that won't pass over plans that could... it makes me wonder about their true intentions
what i would do is have all schools from 5A to C vote on a plan to reunite 4A and 5A and keep the split as is for all other schools, then threaten to revoke the split for all if they don't pass it. the small schools would vote yes bc they want to keep what they have. nothing will happen after that bc everyone has what they want in the end.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 8:45 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:50 am to bigcatfish
It is a shame that the best solution was the original solution - 5 classes combined and let schools play up if they'd like.
The idea that sending ECA and JC to 1A and 2A was BETTER than having them wreck shite in 4A and 5A is ridiculous.
The idea that sending ECA and JC to 1A and 2A was BETTER than having them wreck shite in 4A and 5A is ridiculous.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:03 am to LSUFanHouston
What's wrong with the current system...split in football only?
It's working pretty well, at least for the Select, as the matchups in the quarters-finals have been largely interesting. The Selects aren't complaining (at least publicly) about Curtis.
It's working pretty well, at least for the Select, as the matchups in the quarters-finals have been largely interesting. The Selects aren't complaining (at least publicly) about Curtis.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:19 am to ctiger69
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word is this. Private and public schools will be split in all sports. It has worked well in football and the higher ups have seen this. It is going to happen.
Worked? How exactly? Teams with losing records making the playoffs?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:20 am to Overbrook
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What's wrong with the current system...split in football only?
that's not the current system anymore... the split got extended to all major sports
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It's working pretty well, at least for the Select, as the matchups in the quarters-finals have been largely interesting.
and think how interesting they would be if the best non-select were in there as well
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:35 am to choupiquesushi
When the split happens for all sports I can see private schools that are C, B, and A combining to form one division in all sports except football. However the public schools in class A, B, and C should all remain in the same classification.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:40 am to chalmetteowl
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i want 2A to have their split if they want it...
I'm ok with each class deciding on their own... problem is... in some classes a split would leave too few schools in each "group" post-split for it to work.
I mean, what if only 2A chooses to split?
Maybe if this is the plan, we should just first combine down to like 4 classes (3 football, one non) and then let each class decide to split or not.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:40 am to ctiger69
do you think 1A schools should naturally have an easier path to the state playoffs and the Dome than 5A schools?
Houston the minimum amount of schools needed for a playoff bracket is 8 IMO... only 3A and 4A don't have that many select schools, hence they combine currently
Houston the minimum amount of schools needed for a playoff bracket is 8 IMO... only 3A and 4A don't have that many select schools, hence they combine currently
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 9:44 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:47 am to ctiger69
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There is nothing to fix here.
One less playoff bracket and set of championships to be managed and run. If B and C schools were allowed to do a private/public split or a rural/urban split, it would be even more.
The idea is to cut down on the number of championships and the number of playoff teams, to offset the increase by doing a split.
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Both Class B and Class C have their own history in Louisiana.
I'm sorry, but when they passed the split, the principals crapped all over history in this state. History is clearly not a concern for them.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:59 am to bigpetedatiga
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Why do we need to combine b and c? That would make it the largest class in the state with over 70 + schools? what is the point?
Current Classes:
5A - 70 schools
4A - 61 schools
3A - 66 schools
2A - 69 schools
1A - 60 schools
B - 33 schools
C - 42 schools
Total = 401 schools
Combining B and C would make a class of 75 schools, which yes, it would be the biggest, but not by much. I would imagine it would also make for tighter geographic districts, which would cut down on travel costs for schools.
In reality, it is absurd for a state the size of Louisiana to have 7 classes. Texas has 6, and in some sports, those 6 each split in half, so a total of 12. Texas certainly has more than twice as many schools in LA.
Now, look at Texas Classes (before they split into D1 and D2)
6A - 247 schools
5A - 253 schools
4A - 191 schools
3A - 221 schools
2A - 203 schools
1A - 202 schools (most play 6 man football or no football, a few schools play up to 2A in football only so they can play 11 man football)
Total = 1,317 schools
What we should really have in LA is 4 classes, 1A-4A, with about 100 schools in each class. Combine B and C into the new 1A, and realign current 1A-5A into new 2A-4A.
Instead, our states wants to split even further. It's nuts.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:02 am to LSUFanHouston
the thing wrong with combining B and C is that you already have schools with 50 kids who find it hard to compete with those with 100... now you want them to compete with those who have 200?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:17 am to LSUFanHouston
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Now, look at Texas Classes (before they split into D1 and D2)
Meh, comparing Louisiana to Texas is not a good comparison.
Why don't you compare Louisiana to Alabama since both states have almost identical populations?
Combining B and C benefits nobody.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 10:18 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:20 am to LSUFanHouston
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Instead, our states wants to split even further. It's nuts.
Or keep private and public together and both have the exact same set of rules dealing with recruiting and who is eligible to play?
Different set rules means there should be a split. This is what started all this mess.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:26 am to chalmetteowl
Class Sizes
If Class B and C schools played football, they would be in 1A. 1A is enrollment 238 and below, B is 106-238 and C is 105 and below.
So you are saying it's a problem for a school to compete in a class with a school that has 150 more kids than them?
The spread between the largest and smallest school in each class is more than 150.
Your own CHS probably has 500 more students than some other schools in 5A.
If Class B and C schools played football, they would be in 1A. 1A is enrollment 238 and below, B is 106-238 and C is 105 and below.
So you are saying it's a problem for a school to compete in a class with a school that has 150 more kids than them?
The spread between the largest and smallest school in each class is more than 150.
Your own CHS probably has 500 more students than some other schools in 5A.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:27 am to ctiger69
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Or keep private and public together and both have the exact same set of rules dealing with recruiting and who is eligible to play?
that's what was done for years and years
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Different set rules means there should be a split. This is what started all this mess.
there is no different set of rules. there is the LHSAA rules and that's it.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:28 am to ctiger69
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Or keep private and public together and both have the exact same set of rules dealing with recruiting and who is eligible to play?
No doubt there needs to be tougher enforcement of "recruiting".
As far as eligibility, that is not an LHSAA problem, that is a facet of school districts.
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