re: A look back on 2019 lsu vs 2001 Miami and 1995 Nebraska

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This is much more pathetic than you realize

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Should work into the quality of this thread nicely.

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Now of those teams you listed glorious, how many had a best win ranked higher than #8?

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To be honest I very much see your point. Miami’s NFL talent after the fact has left that team a bit romanticized. They had two close games against decent teams on the road, and then blew the doors off of a bunch of good but not elite teams

I’m just not in the “pedestrian among National Champions” camp

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This is much more pathetic than you realize

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I failed and gave him the attention he was begging for.

Don't be like me, be better than me.

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Miami’s NFL talent after the fact has left that team a bit romanticized. They had two close games against decent teams on the road, and then blew the doors off of a bunch of good but not elite teams

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This, 100%.

They do not have a GOAT level resume and live off of how they players did in the NFL, which is obviously as good as it gets.

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Are you planning to give your reasons for 2001 Miami in the discussion or nah?

You've only disagreed with Pride, I don't think you've given a single rebuttal yet.

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Do you not think Miami 2001 is a top 15 team all time either?

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Nebraska players of 95 were smaller than your players today.

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And they couldn't throw the ball. (1700 yards) They couldn't stop the pass. (1971 Nebraska team much better) That is a big, big, problem for an all-timer.

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And they couldn't throw the ball.

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Tommy Frazier had the 6th highest passer rating in all of college football in 1995.

That doesn't screem "couldn't throw the ball" but rather didn't need to throw the ball.

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I'd argue this doesn't give Nebraska the advantage you think it does. That LSU team rarely benifited from pass interferance or penalties in the defensive backfield.

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that's actually my point. nobody even attempts it now, but Nebraska would.
that Nebraska team will do all sorts of shite that nobody does now because it would be penalized in today's game.
LSU didn't benefit from it because the defenses of today are conditioned to not do it any more.

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Again, this wasn't something that LSU ever really dealt with besides the Clemson LB ejection in the title.

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again, teams don't do it at all now because of fear of penalties and ejections. the rules have basically washed those out of the game now to where they very rarely happen. The days of head hunter type safeties filling a highlight reel with bone crushing hits are gone.

that Nebraska team absolutely will play that way.

one or two good licks like was prevalent in the 90s (that none of our receivers ever had to fear), and suddenly their heads is on swivels for every crossing route, every pass down sidelines where they have to jump or extend, etc.

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The LSU offense never really put themselves in positions where "over the middle" plays would effect the game. They dominated man to man defenses and found holes in zone defenses where receivers would sit instead of running 8 yard drags over the middle.

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and if you force Nebraska to play by today's defensive rules, that would happen again in this game.

if however you allow Nebraska to play 1995 style physical defense, our WR don't get to enjoy nearly as big of a cushion, will get mugged and mauled at the beginning of every route, etc.

it completely changes the dynamics of the game.
by today's rules? LSU in a blowout
by 1995's rules? LSU does enough to win, but game is low scoring, WRs are frustrated, Joe's uniform is dirtier than it ever got in 2019, and someone like Thad Moss is the game's MVP.

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Another advantage LSU would have is the fact that they ran a HUNH that never subbed, that would give those bigger players of the 90s fits.

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this is why LSU would ultimately win. eventually they out "athlete" Nebraska.
if you force Nebraska to play 2019 style hands-off defense, LSU boat races them from start to finish.
Let NU play bully-ball like they did in 90's and it'll take a while before the Tigers pull away.

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Pass interference and linemen downfield.

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and most importantly is tackles can't lineup 3 yards in the backfield. Makes it way harder to pass protect

95 Nebraska trumps all. They were an unstoppable force. Even if Frazier went down, their backup was just as good, undefeated as a starter. That had 5 or 6 I-backs that would have started at any other program in the country. Defenses had to move up to try to stop the run and when they did, they'd do play-action over the top for an easy score. They won every single game by double digits and their closest game was 14 points when they were up 20+ points and had the reserves playing. 2019 LSU had the best overall season (because they played more games) but Nebraska 95 was the best team.