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re: A current all-NBA team would wreck the dream team
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:50 pm to Baloo
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:50 pm to Baloo
I was talking about the starting squad. None of the dream team starters could shoot 3's.
And Hakeem was athletic in the sense that he was agile and very coordinated. He's not going to out-jump DeAndre Jordan.
And Hakeem was athletic in the sense that he was agile and very coordinated. He's not going to out-jump DeAndre Jordan.
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:51 pm to PrimeTime Money
Mullen couldn't shoot 3's? Jordan couldn't?
Bird didn't start really after 2nd game of Tournament of Americas.
Bird didn't start really after 2nd game of Tournament of Americas.
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:52 pm to RonBurgundy
You posted a picture of David Robinson finishing a dunk against a guy who didn't even jump.
We have no idea how that play even developed, how high he got or anything.
We have no idea how that play even developed, how high he got or anything.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:52 pm to TheWalrus
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Carl Lewis 1984 winning time was 9.99
If you have to be selective about which race of his to use, you've already lost the argument. His world record time was 9.86 and most people are going to refer to that since it's his best vs that HS kids best.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:53 pm to sms151t
I literally just said I was talking about the starters. And no, Jordan was never a great 3-point shooter. Especially not in 1992.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:56 pm to Baloo
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The Dream Team's front court would tear these two apart.
I don't disagree, but the rebounding stats are somewhat skewed. There have been analyses pointing out that rebounding opportunities change based on shot location. More 3PA mean more variability in who gets the rebound. There were 3x as many 3PA last season as in 92. Same thing with the blocked shots. I'm not so certain those numbers tell the whole story.
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Malone and Barkley are both athletic enough to play away from the rim with Durant.
No way. Durant would be able to shoot over Barkley all day and he would go around Malone. You'd have to put Jordan on him, which would work. The real problem for the Dream Team is Magic wouldn't be able to guard any one.
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I do think the modern team would try and get the game into the open court, but in the half court game, the 1992 bigs are just going to flat out dominate.
Yup. They would win, but it would be a hell of a game. LeBron v Pippen would be amazing.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:57 pm to PrimeTime Money
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And no, Jordan was never a great 3-point shooter. Especially not in 1992.
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:57 pm to PrimeTime Money
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I was talking about the starting squad. None of the dream team starters could shoot 3's.
Mullin started several games. Stockton started a game in which Magic was hurt. Daly, not being stupid, would rotate his lineup for his opponent. The only player who started every game was Jordan. They were ALL starters.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:59 pm to PortCityTiger24
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:01 pm to Baloo
Let me rephrase. I was responding to the starting line-up that another poster posted who said how awesome that line-up would be.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:02 pm to PrimeTime Money
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PrimeTime Money
DJ is a manimal and essentially the biggest freak athlete in an era with no legendary post presence. Great. Dude isn't a good basketball player and the bball IQ drop off from DJ to Ewing/Robinson is the size of Mt. Everest.
Not to mention he's a liability to get Hack-a-Shaq'd with his unholy 41% FT.
Davis is obviously great and all, but he's too small to bang with any of those 4.
The biggest ? mark would be how Jordon/Pippen would acclimate to playing defense under modern day rules. Westbrook though is the biggest advantage imo.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:02 pm to PrimeTime Money
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You posted a picture of David Robinson finishing a dunk against a guy who didn't even jump.
We have no idea how that play even developed, how high he got or anything.
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And Hakeem was athletic in the sense that he was agile and very coordinated. He's not going to out-jump DeAndre Jordan.
So your entire argument is that the 92 team is fricked because DeAndre Jordan can jump really high.
Got it.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:03 pm to PrimeTime Money
I don't remember Dwight hitting 6 in a half.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:03 pm to corndeaux
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Yup. They would win, but it would be a hell of a game. LeBron v Pippen would be amazing.
Definitely the key matchup for the Dream Teamers. They need Pippen to contain LeBron, as they have no other defender on the wing who is in the same galaxy as Pippen. They win on the inside, but they could lose it if LeBron goes off or if the 2014 team never lets it become a half court game.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:05 pm to ShamelessPel
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The biggest ? mark would be how Jordon/Pippen would acclimate to playing defense under modern day rules.
They would dominate, without question.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:07 pm to CocomoLSU
That's not my argument. My argument is that DeAndre Jordan is not going to get pushed around or out-rebounded down low. Any athletic advantage David Robinson would have against most centers would be negated.
DeAndre Jordan has very little offensive game, but he can play defense and rebound with the best of 'em.
DeAndre Jordan has very little offensive game, but he can play defense and rebound with the best of 'em.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:08 pm to PortCityTiger24
There are always anomalies.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:11 pm to PrimeTime Money
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but he can play defense and rebound with the best of 'em.
And David Robinson is one of the best of them. That's all I'm saying.
DJ would get some boards, sure. And maybe some blocks or dunks. Nobody is saying DJ is not good. But the guys he's playing against are all legendary hall of famers, and most were on their way to that already in 1992.
And again: I'm not saying that DR is way more athletic than DJ. Just disputing your ridiculous claim to the opposite.
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:11 pm to CocomoLSU
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So your entire argument is that the 92 team is fricked because DeAndre Jordan can jump really high.
Got it.
Don't forget that he can do this too:
Watch DeAndre Jordan Blow The Game-Winner
Deadspin link because it has a Chris Paul close-up
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In Wednesday night's tie game against the Trail Blazers with 2.8 seconds left, the Clippers ran a play for Chris Paul to take the final shot. The point guard got a good look, but missed. DeAndre Jordan grabbed the rebound, heard the shot clock sound, and didn't try a shot because he thought it was the final buzzer. Paul, who knew the truth, gesticulated wildly and angrily.
quote:See above.
DJ is a manimal and essentially the biggest freak athlete in an era with no legendary post presence. Great. Dude isn't a good basketball player and the bball IQ drop off from DJ to Ewing/Robinson is the size of Mt. Everest.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:12 pm to Baloo
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They win on the inside, but they could lose it if LeBron goes off or if the 2014 team never lets it become a half court game.
Yeah. The idea of 2014 saying "frick it" with the 92 bigs, going small with Durant/James at the 4, and bombs away is pretty enticing. Don't know if it would work, but it would be a hell of a lot of fun.
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