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What do you include when determining your income?
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:17 am
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:17 am
When you think of the question "how much do I make?", do you just think of your base salary, or are all the other benefits included. I recently stumbled upon something through work that broke down everything that is paid to me or for me by my company (401k match, insurance premiums, bonuses, etc.). It is actually a very useful document if I ever look to switch jobs as I now know just how much my current position is worth. But for the purposes of this thread, I've never really considered all that other stuff as my income (except for bonuses, which aren't huge). It is quite significant and when I'm bragging about how much I made at my next cocktail party, I'd really like to be able to drop that total number
j/k
j/k
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:25 am to KG6
We have the same thing at work
"Total compensation"
I tend to just look at it as base salary plus bonuses, but I definitely take that other stuff into account when comparing potential employers. It is pretty much what made me take this job. The pay was slightly less than where I was it, but the total comp was much higher
"Total compensation"
I tend to just look at it as base salary plus bonuses, but I definitely take that other stuff into account when comparing potential employers. It is pretty much what made me take this job. The pay was slightly less than where I was it, but the total comp was much higher
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:27 am to KG6
Base salary.
I realize that there are other benefits that I receive and these are taken into consideration when I'm looking elsewhere for employment, but I just look at base salary when I refer to my "income".
ETA: I don't get bonuses, if I did I guess I would include that, too. Basically any cash that I receive directly (not insurance premiums or 401k match).
I realize that there are other benefits that I receive and these are taken into consideration when I'm looking elsewhere for employment, but I just look at base salary when I refer to my "income".
ETA: I don't get bonuses, if I did I guess I would include that, too. Basically any cash that I receive directly (not insurance premiums or 401k match).
This post was edited on 2/25/16 at 9:28 am
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:31 am to KG6
I just consider my base salary.
I don't consider bonuses because I don't know if or when I'm going to get them.
I guess I could include the $3k my employer puts into my HSA, but I don't.
Nor do I really consider the 401k match or other benefits.
I consider those benefits and I certainly consider them as part of the package the employer offers, just don't consider it part of my income.
I don't consider bonuses because I don't know if or when I'm going to get them.
I guess I could include the $3k my employer puts into my HSA, but I don't.
Nor do I really consider the 401k match or other benefits.
I consider those benefits and I certainly consider them as part of the package the employer offers, just don't consider it part of my income.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:36 am to Salmon
Bonuses really depends on how dependable they are.
I have some extra compensation that I know pretty much what it's going to be (and is owed to me, not discretionary) so I include it.
Same I don't include 401k or that other stuff.
Company pays for my cell phone so that's a $1,000 I don't have to worry about but I wouldn't add that if someone asked me for a number. I'd negotiate that separately if I got a new job or figure it in my salary request.
I have some extra compensation that I know pretty much what it's going to be (and is owed to me, not discretionary) so I include it.
Same I don't include 401k or that other stuff.
Company pays for my cell phone so that's a $1,000 I don't have to worry about but I wouldn't add that if someone asked me for a number. I'd negotiate that separately if I got a new job or figure it in my salary request.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:41 am to Salmon
quote:
I just consider my base salary.
I don't consider bonuses because I don't know if or when I'm going to get them.
I certainly don't include bonuses if I'm talking about how much I will make this year (not that I ever have a reason to discuss it). But I will include it for what I made last year. I'm not going to go around telling someone I regularly make 150k if I only make 100k and got a kick arse 50k bonus one year.
But there are a lot of cash items I get not included in "base salary". Such as car allowance, bonuses, restricted stock options, etc.. Hell, if my company gives me 20k in stock, but I can't touch it for 3 years, I'm going to at the very least consider that part of my income in 3 years.
I guess this all ties back to ridiculous rules of your house being a certain percentage of your income and such. Now that I've been with my company for a few years, I'm reaping the benefits of some of these things (until I get shite canned soon).
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:43 am to KG6
I get free breakfast, lunch, and dinner in the hospital cafeteria. Should I include that in my total income?
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:45 am to Odinson
Talk about some savings if you ate all 3 there.
How's the food?
How's the food?
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:45 am to KG6
I include everything because I'm trying to be an OT baller...still falling short though
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:46 am to Odinson
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I get free breakfast, lunch, and dinner in the hospital cafeteria. Should I include that in my total income?
Does it end up in your checking account? A lot of mine does.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:52 am to bwallcubfan
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I include everything because I'm trying to be an OT baller...still falling short though
That was kind of the purpose of the joke in the first post. I know I'm not going to go around including my health insurance and every meal I can expense as income. But, some of those benefits turn into cash in my job. But I've never considered it. Really makes a difference in what house you can afford, or what vehicle note you can handle when these numbers are on the magnitude of 20-50k depending on the year.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 10:00 am to KG6
I guess the question could be worded like...
If you were applying for a mortgage, what would you include in the line for "income"
I think they only care about what you can show on your pay stub, not all of the ancillary benefits
If you were applying for a mortgage, what would you include in the line for "income"
I think they only care about what you can show on your pay stub, not all of the ancillary benefits
Posted on 2/25/16 at 10:14 am to KG6
as for casual conversation I use base salary but if I'm entertaining a new position I'll look at everything
current company pays 100% of my health, dental, vision which is huge
truck allowance
gas card
cell phone reimbursement
current company pays 100% of my health, dental, vision which is huge
truck allowance
gas card
cell phone reimbursement
Posted on 2/25/16 at 11:08 am to yellowfin
I just go by what my W-2 says.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 11:12 am to guttata
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I just go by what my W-2 says.
I will admit I know nothing about taxes. But what's the difference between
"wages, tips, other compensation",
"medicare wages and tips", and
"social security wages and tips"
Especially with moving recently and receiving resettlement bonuses and such, I have no idea what I was actually paid last year.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 12:29 pm to KG6
quote:
"wages, tips, other compensation",
"medicare wages and tips", and
"social security wages and tips"
Taxes.
My W2 has something that says "Gross Pay" which doesn't map to any of those.
And its the highest, so I take it. If I was discussing my wages with someone, I would go with my gross pay. If I was looking at another job, I would look at gross pay plus the cost of any benefits/401k match/etc.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 12:46 pm to KG6
quote:
"social security wages and tips"
capped @ 118,500 I believe for 2015
Other 2 will probably be your gross minus insurance payments
Posted on 2/25/16 at 1:14 pm to yellowfin
quote:
Other 2 will probably be your gross minus insurance payments
But the other two are different....significantly
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