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re: What are you telling your kids about getting a degree/career?
Posted on 4/26/13 at 7:12 am to JabarkusRussell
Posted on 4/26/13 at 7:12 am to JabarkusRussell
Did that include fees? That's pretty cheap for grad school.
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 2:54 pm to Microtiger
All the high-flying macro-earning types like
doctors, lawyers, investment bankers, engineers and dope dealers go nuts when their fancy car
won't start, the AC in their fancy house won't
work, the plumbing stops up, etc. LOVE their
blue-collar guy when they need him!
We all need each other.
doctors, lawyers, investment bankers, engineers and dope dealers go nuts when their fancy car
won't start, the AC in their fancy house won't
work, the plumbing stops up, etc. LOVE their
blue-collar guy when they need him!
We all need each other.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 9:31 pm to lsufan112001
quote:???
Obviously the significance of a bachelor's degree holds very little merit
Every metric for individuals is better for college grads.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:21 pm to lynxcat
quote:
You are overstating this.
Less than you might think.
You have people with specialized science oriented degrees with years of relevant experience still needing to do temp-to-hire positions.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:29 pm to Tigah in the ATL
quote:
Every metric for individuals is better for college grads.
Every metric for individuals who get a HS diploma is also better than the drop outs, but that doesnt mean a diploma has much merit.
Job market outside of a few majors absolutely sucks still for new grads, even those who didn't major in a fluff degree. And anyone who disagrees is out of touch with reality.
There are even analyses on how shitty the pay is for new hires that happened to come out of college post 08, even compared to comparable candidates for the same job who applied 07 or earlier, and how that pay differential will grow as they progress in their careers.
If anything is overstated, it's the assumption that the current job market is reflective of the future....but the grim painting for recent grads now is very much valid.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:41 pm to Siderophore
quote:but the picture for people without degrees is even worse.
.but the grim painting for recent grads now is very much valid.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:57 pm to Tigah in the ATL
Unless he clarified later, that's not the point.
A college degree is so ubiquitous that possessing one doesn't have merit as a mark of distinguishing a candidate.
The reason why the statistics are bleaker for non college grads is they have so many of the dregs of society in that pool. Its not that having a degree opens doors as it is the kind of people who attain them already having the doors open.
Yes, many jobs require a college degree.
But it is also not unreasonable to suggest that a driven intelligent person can't do better for himself as a blue collar nongrad.
A college degree is so ubiquitous that possessing one doesn't have merit as a mark of distinguishing a candidate.
The reason why the statistics are bleaker for non college grads is they have so many of the dregs of society in that pool. Its not that having a degree opens doors as it is the kind of people who attain them already having the doors open.
Yes, many jobs require a college degree.
But it is also not unreasonable to suggest that a driven intelligent person can't do better for himself as a blue collar nongrad.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 12:06 am to Siderophore
quote:maybe, but the odds are against him or her
But it is also not unreasonable to suggest that a driven intelligent person can't do better for himself as a blue collar nongrad.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:31 am to wegotdatwood
quote:
Did that include fees?
Yeah. UNO was such a shitty school. Glad I went to LSU for undergrad.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 7:28 pm to lsufan112001
I tell them. Be an entrepreneur.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 9:35 pm to jdg91878
I'll tell him to get a marketable skill - something he can rely on based on the current demand. If he doesn't choose college (I won't raise him as that being an option) but he still must choose a trade school. He can fall back on sales, marketing, entrepreneurism or business, but that shouldn't be his training in college. I want him to treat school as his job, but to have the time of his life while there. How that's executed, I hope he figures it out.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 10:10 pm to lsufan112001
quote:
of course everyone is saying engineering, but obviously that gap will be filled in if most are pushing in that direction and it becomes to have too much competition.
Many people who hold engineering degrees are not working in engineering. Companies hire engineers.
Many companies like to hire former athletes for sales positions. Successful athletes have the "don't give up" attitude and personal fortitude.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 12:24 am to Blakely Bimbo
I don't know what I will tell my future kids, but it is nice knowing you have a job when you graduate. (Accounting) versus most of my friends who are just going to go home and try and find something or work for their parents.
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