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Thoughts on Kinder Morgan

Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted by elleshoo9
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2007
1859 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:52 pm
I've been eying KMI recently, nearing 52 week lows. Awesome yield, but the dividend is not expected to grow as much next year which shouldn't be surprising. Any thoughts on beginning a long term position with this company? Any glaring reason to stay away?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80779 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:55 pm to
LINK /

This article explains it well. If you plan on buy/holding for a long time, I'm a fan of KMI.
Posted by Grits N Shrimp
Kansas City, MO
Member since Dec 2014
646 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:01 pm to
They recently reduced their expectations for dividend growth from 10% annually to 6-8% annually for the next 5 years. Kinder Morgan makes up about 6% of my portfolio so I'm very bullish on them and am still happy with the expected dividend increases.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80779 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:03 pm to
Hell, I'll gladly take a 6% increase each year with a 7% starting yield
Posted by Grits N Shrimp
Kansas City, MO
Member since Dec 2014
646 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:04 pm to
Exactly
Posted by elleshoo9
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2007
1859 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:13 pm to
That's my mindset. Just making sure I'm not missing something
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2473 posts
Posted on 10/26/15 at 6:17 pm to
KMI actually has a sizable crude exposure once their hedges roll off in 2016, 57,000 b/d in 2015. Not saying that should be a deal breaker on deciding to invest, but it could be a hindrance on future dividend growth if prices stay depressed.
Posted by elleshoo9
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2007
1859 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 7:01 am to
quote:

KMI actually has a sizable crude exposure once their hedges roll off in 2016, 57,000 b/d in 2015. Not saying that should be a deal breaker on deciding to invest, but it could be a hindrance on future dividend growth if prices stay depressed.


Can you explain this a little more and the implications?
Posted by Grits N Shrimp
Kansas City, MO
Member since Dec 2014
646 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:35 am to
If crude oil prices remain depressed through 2016-17, it's going to impact KMI negatively perhaps more than some expect.
Posted by raw dog
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
483 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:51 am to
Kinder Morgan was once the largest oil producer in Texas.
Posted by eye65
Member since Aug 2009
987 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:34 am to
Anyone still trying to catch this knife?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80779 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:06 pm to
Yikes

Haven't been paying attention to the price. Holey moley
Posted by jeepfreak
Back in the BR
Member since Oct 2003
19433 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 7:03 pm to
Time to buy more shares!
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:26 pm to
They have 45 Billion in debt and only $330 Million cash. How will they service this debt? Will they have to CUT the DIV?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 9:56 am to
Energy sector down big today. Was there some kind of announcement?


I see...
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 10:00 am
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4101 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 4:23 pm to
It was announced Friday that the dividend was under review.
Posted by Blue Horseshoe
Member since Dec 2014
57 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:48 pm to
They just announced the dividend cut.

Down to $0.50/share annually from $2.04/share annually

LINK

ETA: There is a conference call to discuss their guidance update tomorrow morning (7:30am CT). Link to Webcast
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 3:56 pm
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2473 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 5:53 pm to
But Rich Kinder said they are a toll road operator! Commodity prices do not affect them!
Posted by elleshoo9
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2007
1859 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 6:04 pm to
Soooo time to buy soon? (I never bought any since i started this thread).
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80779 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 6:05 pm to
As the ship sinks!
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