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Self-driving cars -- untapped $2 trillion industry?
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:46 pm
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This article claims that Forbes magazine states that self driving cars are coming sooner than we think. It says that this can be a $2 trillion industry, and now it's time to get in. Does anybody believe This is the next great industry?
This article claims that Forbes magazine states that self driving cars are coming sooner than we think. It says that this can be a $2 trillion industry, and now it's time to get in. Does anybody believe This is the next great industry?
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:53 pm to LSUneaux
I guess it depends on how you look at it. I think it's inevitable, but who wins? I think if google or Uber tech ends up in the cars, they surely win. They don't profit in automotives right now in this way. However I don't know how traditional car makers win. If they make better automated cars they will gain market share, but I think automated cars means less cars on the road over time, as you gain efficiency.
So yes, like everything else, some will win and some will lose, but I don't know how long automated cars will be a "separate" industry until it IS the industry
So yes, like everything else, some will win and some will lose, but I don't know how long automated cars will be a "separate" industry until it IS the industry
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 7/20/15 at 10:04 pm to LSUneaux
Your link sends me to a Motley Fool ad of some sort... not sure if it's my cell or what. But anyways, I'm not a believer in it just yet. I think people will be reluctant to give up the power of driving. Whether it's because they like it, speeding, etc. Also, I've read it makes some people sick
Also, can driverless cars function if there are half or so of cars on the road manually driving? Is there going to be a price point that works for the lower, middle, and upper class? I kinda view it along the lines of Amazon drones. It sounds great but there are so many obstacles I don't see it happening for a long time. But I kinda hope I'm wrong because it would be pretty nice but I would miss driving sometimes I'm sure
quote:Forbes Article
The report suggests between six and 10 percent of Americans riding in autonomous vehicles would be expected to always, or at least usually, suffer some degree of motion sickness.
Also, can driverless cars function if there are half or so of cars on the road manually driving? Is there going to be a price point that works for the lower, middle, and upper class? I kinda view it along the lines of Amazon drones. It sounds great but there are so many obstacles I don't see it happening for a long time. But I kinda hope I'm wrong because it would be pretty nice but I would miss driving sometimes I'm sure
Posted on 7/20/15 at 10:11 pm to The Connoisseur
I'm pretty sure you would be able to assume manual control at any time. Hazardous conditions, weather, or maybe you just want to drive.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 10:39 pm to LSUneaux
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Hazardous conditions
Why would humans be more adept at handling this than a rational machine with a 360 degree view and a split second reaction time unencumbered by the elements?
On a moral/philosophical/ethical/etc. note, Elon Musk thinks there is an eventual moral imperative to have human driving effectively outlawed. Hopefully that doesn't come to fruition, because that would suck, in spite of the benefits in saving lives, opening up new avenues for the disabled, etc. I kind of think this trend is somewhat emblematic of humans becoming mindless drones and slaves to technology. The automobile is such an American symbol in that we harness technology to empower us and provide us freedom, but this almost goes too far, such that the opposite will hold true as the new paradigm. I think taking this out of our control is kind of depressing.
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 7/20/15 at 10:49 pm to Lou Pai
Meh, before "technology" we spent 16 hours a day just trying to survive. This continued through the agricultural era. It wasnt until the last 150 years that anybody got any free time. I imagine people didn't bitch when they could start mindlessly drone off while collecting crops
Posted on 7/21/15 at 4:43 am to Teddy Ruxpin
I`m sure we all will use them in the nearest future
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 4:44 am
Posted on 7/21/15 at 6:42 am to Lou Pai
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note, Elon Musk thinks there is an eventual moral imperative to have human driving effectively outlawed. H
Now I'm gonna have Red Barchetta by Rush stuck in my head all day.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:03 am to Lou Pai
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On a moral/philosophical/ethical/etc. note, Elon Musk thinks there is an eventual moral imperative to have human driving effectively outlawed.
He is probably right, at least for day to day activities. We would be so much better off as a society if no human drove. We would be able to get from point a to point b faster, and much safer, likely using significantly less energy.
But everyone is going to not want driverless cars.
First off, local municipalities will not want to lose the fat cash stream associated with traffic violations. Car companies are not going to want it, b.c they are not going to be the ones selling them. Plus, the eventual model would be a pool model for vehicles, i.e. rent time on a car. This is going to mean much fewer cars being sold and serviced.
Oil companies are going to hate it b.c these will likely be electric vehicles.
Not to mention other companies that draft off auto - insurance, tires, service, parts, driving schools, AAA.
Once driverless cars take over (2030-2040), its going to completely revolutionize society.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:07 am to Lou Pai
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Why would humans be more adept at handling this than a rational machine with a 360 degree view and a split second reaction time unencumbered by the elements?
Just curious, the cars cameras can overcome intense rain or fog?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:15 am to lsu13lsu
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Just curious, the cars cameras can overcome intense rain or fog?
certainly better than humans.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:18 am to lsu13lsu
I believe, with the way the topology of the US is right now, we would see some type of hybrid car that is able to be put in manual mode.
No other way around it really.
No other way around it really.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:22 am to LSUneaux
Meh, they will have to work out the insurance issues and will have some very large lobbies going against it, namely insurance industry, lawyers, and police.
Most cars on the road today still don't have smart cruise control, lane departure warning, collision avoidance...etc. This tech was introduced 10-20 yrs ago and still has not been close to fully adopted. We are still at least 20 yrs out from having serious adoption of fully autonomous vehicles.
Most cars on the road today still don't have smart cruise control, lane departure warning, collision avoidance...etc. This tech was introduced 10-20 yrs ago and still has not been close to fully adopted. We are still at least 20 yrs out from having serious adoption of fully autonomous vehicles.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:26 am to NOFOX
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police
They will hate the lack of tickets!!
Collect and Serve!
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:24 pm to Hawkeye95
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Oil companies are going to hate it b.c these will likely be electric vehicles.
A lot of them could be in cities, but barring a breakthrough in battery technology, which seems illusive, I have a hard time believing that will be the case for longer distances, especially when you consider the fuel efficiencies gained.
The logic for use in cities and in shorter distances, coupled with the British government's subsidization, will probably hasten adoption in Europe.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:47 pm to Lou Pai
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A lot of them could be in cities, but barring a breakthrough in battery technology, which seems illusive, I have a hard time believing that will be the case for longer distances, especially when you consider the fuel efficiencies gained.
But how much of car usage is for longer distances? And honestly a pool model for cars would work much better than what we do now, people will just have to learn to adjust to a different way of interacting. But the biggest hurdle getting the vehicle will be taken care of!
The model I see happening is like a subscription service which provides so much time of car usage per time period, plus the ability to buy extra/sell your time. You might have a regular vehicle you use, but others are going to use it too. You might also be able to rent a different vehicle for longer distances, which uses gas or is a hybrid.
Reality is that our cars sit unused most of the time. Its a pretty expensive asset to not full leverage. You already see sharing exploding in cities, its just going to make more and more sense.
We have had two friends go down to one car in the last 2 years, and just use the car sharing service when they need a 2nd car.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:05 pm to Hawkeye95
Good points. There are a lot of people, particularly in outside sales, that travel long distances though. If you reduce weight of vehicles and allow them to tailgate each other to reduce drag, could see some further efficiencies that could begin to challenge the fossil fuel consumption currently needed to power the electric grid as it is. Have to think the impact on cities' energy grids would be immense. Link to interesting article on the implications below:
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This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:51 pm to LSUneaux
I've been pondering how to invest in this for a long time, because I think its coming. Dealing with Houston traffic day in and out has lead me to realize that humans are terribly inefficient drivers. I'm pretty sure on a per ton basis, a loaded freight train accelerate faster than an equivalent length of cars. We don't need more roadways in America, we need to use them more efficiently. I think we'll see it on congested city freeways first. Phillip K Dick was right again
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 7/21/15 at 3:04 pm to sneakytiger
I love the idea of self driving cars...but I don't see an instance where they could ever be fully automated. For instance, the technology currently exists to get you from point A to point B. But what happens when point B is a large parking lot, a parking deck, your garage, etc.
I do think some form of automated driving will be available in the next 10 years, just not fully automated.
I do think some form of automated driving will be available in the next 10 years, just not fully automated.
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