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PMI Clarification

Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:27 pm
Posted by lsusaint86
Thibodaux
Member since Nov 2009
139 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:27 pm
Good Afternoon Gents.

Currently I am paying $150 a month on PMI. I have paid off roughly 10% of my loan thus far on a 30 year fixed conventional loan.
Home values have increased roughly 10% the last 5 years near home.

My question is this without having to refinance: Is it possible to eliminate PMI before paying off 22%?

I was told two different scenarios:
I can request for reappraisal right now should I feel my equity is greater than 20% or...
I would have to wait until I reach 20% before I can request removing PMI..

Any help is greatly appreciated.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39578 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:31 pm to
How long have you been paying on your loan? 5 years?
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:37 pm to
Essentially yes. What's your interest rate at?
Posted by lsusaint86
Thibodaux
Member since Nov 2009
139 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:41 pm to
5 years this December.
4.00%
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 5:48 pm to
If you plan to stay long term, it's not a terrible idea to refinance

If you're 5 years in, and can afford it, refinance to a 15 year mortgage and likely get down to 3.5 or below.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41187 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

If you plan to stay long term, it's not a terrible idea to refinance

If you're 5 years in, and can afford it, refinance to a 15 year mortgage and likely get down to 3.5 or below.


With the lower rate and removal of PMI, your monthly note would be similar to the 30 year mortgage.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:10 pm to
And you'd pay it off 10 years sooner
Posted by FriscoKid
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2005
5122 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:52 pm to
I thought I heard PMI doesn't go away anymore?? Unless of course you refi. But it will stick with the life of the original loan.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:03 pm to
That's only for FHA loans and only the ones originated in the last few years I believe
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10265 posts
Posted on 7/23/16 at 9:17 am to
quote:

refinance to a 15 year mortgage and likely get down to 3.5 or below.
Posted by man117
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2009
674 posts
Posted on 7/23/16 at 10:37 am to
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This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 7:20 pm
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 7/23/16 at 11:37 am to
You can get below 2.5% on a 15 now.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50342 posts
Posted on 7/23/16 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

If you're 5 years in, and can afford it, refinance to a 15 year mortgage and likely get down to 3.5 or below.



Why would anyone want a 15 year mortgage with interest rates this low
Posted by ellesssuuu
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
2775 posts
Posted on 7/23/16 at 11:57 pm to
PMI will drop off automatically once you have 22% equity. This is based on terms of the initial transaction. You can request to remove once you have 20% equity with a new appraisal.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25445 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:02 am to
quote:

PMI will drop off automatically once you have 22% equity. This is based on terms of the initial transaction. You can request to remove once you have 20% equity with a new appraisal.



not anymore. PMI stays with loan forever. Only way to remov is refi
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:04 am to
Wrong


That's only true for certain FHA loans
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20444 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:20 am to
Not to derail, but why would they make a policy that PMI does not drop off? I mean who would not refinance to remove it? Sounds like a dumb government policy made for one small reason that rarely happens.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 3:47 pm to
They don't. PMI doesn't even exist on FHA loans it's MMI.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 3:48 pm
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 8:14 am to
For qualifying loans, PMI will auto-terminate at 78%, but the borrower can request removal at 80%.


Check with you bank to see if they can use a new home value in the ratio. You may have to pay for an appraisal, but it may work in your favor in the long run
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