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Ok money guys. Budget ideas

Posted on 1/4/16 at 6:33 pm
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14049 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 6:33 pm
So new years resolution is a better budget. I get paid weekly. I was thinking rolling cash as a hard line and opening up a few more savings accounts to use as a virtual envelope for things like vacation, house, kids stuff for school/Xmas, etc...

Everything leftover after my cash bottom gets rolled into these virtual envelopes.

I have been doing the whole credit card rewards points pay it off at the end of the month shite but with an extra kid as well as mindless swiping I have gotten lazy with the card.

Thanks
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 6:47 pm to
Eat out less
Spend less on groceries
Don't throw leftovers away
Think of ways to cut bills (phone, cable/satellite)
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14049 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 6:53 pm to
We already do that. Minus eating out. It's just waseful and I'd like a better way of tracking. I already spreadsheet everything and average months as well as track deficit and surplus as well. My wife who never looks at anything is where the helpnis needed I think. In her defense she has 3 under age of 5 to deal with as well as two major hospitalization from me this year. She has a lot to track and I thought cash would help...
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 7:17 pm to
Oh, gotcha. You say you spreadsheet everything, what exactly do you mean?

I download my bank statement every week or two and assign a category to each purchase and roll it up by month. I have some budgeted averages I want to hit and compare to those. Even if you don't have budgets for categories, the data collection can lead to some "holy shite" moments when you look at the monthly or yearly roll up.

I have categories like food, fun, insurance/tax (I put a little into savings each month), debt, Roth, fuel, bills (basically house note and utilities), and a few more. I just type a keyword next to each expense and the formulas roll it up.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 7:29 pm to
You say she never looks at anything....what exactly does this mean? Who does the grocery and household shopping? If it's her, then does she stay on budget with the weekly targets? Sit down at a kid free time and explain what you want to achieve with your budget, and ask her what her goals are. You may be motivated to save for one thing when she really wants to work toward something else. If she's truly loose with the spending, give her an incentive to economize....if the grocery weekly budget is $50, tell her she can keep X percentage of whatever's left over at the end of the week, with Y percentage going toward joint savings.

Cooking at home is the easiest way to save money, but it does put the burden on whoever cooks regularly. If this is her, perhaps you both could spend some time cooking freezer meals one Sunday a month, then she won't feel so under the gun on busy weekdays.
Posted by lilsnappa
Red Stick
Member since Mar 2006
1794 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14049 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

I download my bank statement every week or two and assign a category to each purchase and roll it up by month. I have some budgeted averages I want to hit and compare to those. Even if you don't have budgets for categories, the data collection can lead to some "holy shite" moments when you look at the monthly or yearly roll up.


Is there a program you downlaod to? I excexcel in a breakdown of all shopping but it is uncategorized. They are broken down to things like krogers/Walmart/target/insurance/gas, etc...
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14049 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:24 pm to
Our budget pretty much went out the window the last two years. What I make should be more than enough. Granted there are medical bills I cost alot at time. It is why I looked at opening up multiple savings account. One for medical, children, vacation, house repair, etc as well as give her cash to keep her target goal. Is the multiple savings account a good idea? I call the bank and I can open them for $25 a pop and would be accessed on one screen to make navigation easy.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:32 pm to
It seems like having too many accounts would become cumbersome and easy to lose track of.

What I like to do is pay my bills for the month, then transfer everything out but what I budget out for two weeks. I can easily transfer it back, but when I transfer back, its a mental reminder that I failed my goal.

I do plan on opening one additional checking account though to serve as a day-to-day expense account. I think it'll help me see what I'm actually spending on food, eating out, alcohol and whatnot.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:34 pm to
I download to excel (comma separated values), delete what columns I don't need, and copy and paste the rest into my spreadsheet. I basically end up with three columns of data: date, description, and amount. Then I enter the category and the rest is automatic.
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
4915 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

I download my bank statement every week or two and assign a category to each purchase and roll it up by month. I have some budgeted averages I want to hit and compare to those. Even if you don't have budgets for categories, the data collection can lead to some "holy shite" moments when you look at the monthly or yearly roll up.


Would be interested in learning about this as well. Sounds like a great idea. I'm sure the alcohol/bars amount would blow me away.
Posted by GoldenD
Houston
Member since Jan 2015
932 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:25 pm to
Using capital one 360 you can open a bunch of online savings accounts for free with like a .75% interest rate, which happens to be really good for a savings account. I have some earmarked like you're attempting to do - house fund, emergency fund, etc.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36704 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 8:15 am to
We've got a different situation.

My husband is a rice/soybean farmer. Some years we get paid once ... some years not at all and it'll be 2 crop incomes in one year depending on when he sells the crop.

NORMALLY what we've done is max out ROTH and either SEP or regular IRA depending on our situation that year and then put the rest in a savings account and "pay ourselves" x amount each month.

Anyone see a better way to do this? We've done it that way for nearly 15 years now.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24139 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 8:19 am to
Mint.com.

Try to renegotiate your insurance with another company. I just saved over $400 a year doing this... Simply switched to another one of the majors.
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
2002 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 8:52 am to
Make better budgeting and planning your top priorities. I would not open multiple savings accounts primarily to avoid the extra time spent maintaining things. Have one account and use your budget planner to allocate the money to these virtual envelopes/buckets.

The main reason I see a benefit of multiple accounts is to help break the mindset that you have more money to spend than you really do. With one account, you will have all of your money summed together and it can be misleading, create comfort for some when there should not be. But the time saved maintaining only one account is very valuable and should be considered.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10482 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 8:57 am to
I have 3 accounts:

-I have a checking account for all my bills and fixed expenses (rent, cable/internet, insurance, phone, water/sewage, electricity). I keep only the exact amount of those expense plus about a $100 buffer in that account. The rest goes into the other 2 accounts

-I have a checking account for daily expenses (gas, groceries, bars, restaurants, movies, etc.). Every month I budget how much I plan to spend on these things, and put that amount in the checking account. That way I basically give myself a cap on my spending. I know that if I have to transfer money into the account before the month has ended then I have failed my goal.

-I have a savings account with the rest of my emergency fund and savings for large future expenses. If I were you, I would not open multiple savings accounts as it just seems like a waste of money. Just keep a spreadsheet or something that helps you track it. So for instance, I have a spreadsheet that outlines how much is for an emergency fund, how mush is saving for a vacation, how much is saving for a down payment on a house, but those are just figures I made up to track it within the same account.

Hope that helps
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14049 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:31 am to
Pack I like the idea of a second checking account for day to day instead of cash. Easier to track at end of year and keeps the wife from carrying large sums on her for grocery, etc..

Thanks for all the responses. Taking all advice.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24139 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Thanks for all the responses. Taking all advice.



I'll leave the multiple accounts / structure to other folks, but you should definitely consider a Mint account. It allows your to easily track all of these accounts in one seamless, electronic location. This is a lifesaver even for someone with simple financials.
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