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New job w/ paternity leave

Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:32 pm
Posted by trader_tiger83
Member since Dec 2012
1188 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:32 pm
Interviewing this week with a Fortune 500 company. Position would be a big career boost. Employer prides itself on work-life balance with 8 weeks paid paternal leave and other benefits.

My question is this... wife is 3 months pregnant. Should I disclose that info if it were to come up in conversation with hiring mgr?

My concern is that I don't disclose during the process and then reveal a few months down the road that I'd be taking 8 weeks off.

What are your thoughts, TD?
Posted by poops_at_parties
Member since Jan 2016
1545 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:40 pm to
If your interviewer asks that then you sue the ever living frick out of them and never need the job again.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:45 pm to
My assumption is that a company that has a generous work-life balance and is forthcoming about it, including 2 months paternity leave; I don't think it matters either way disclosing.

This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 2:43 am
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:06 am to
In my opinion you shouldn't say anything unless they ask.

I seriously doubt they wouldn't hire you over it, but there's no reason to bring it up.

And if you've only been there a few months and feel weird taking 8 weeks off...then don't take all 8 weeks off
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 12:06 am
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:17 am to
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This post was edited on 5/29/17 at 4:32 pm
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97615 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:46 am to
My thoughts are there's no reason for a man to take off 8 weeks when his wife has a baby
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20396 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 6:45 am to
quote:

My thoughts are there's no reason for a man to take off 8 weeks when his wife has a baby


This. After a week with our first I went back to work even though I had taken 2 weeks off. I then worked for 2 weeks and took another week off, then when my wife went back to work after 9 weeks I took a week off.

Even though you get 8 weeks off, I don't see any guy needing that much at first. I mean you are going to completely remove yourself from any and all projects for a long time otherwise. 3-4 individual weeks off here and there would be plenty. You can't do anything but stay at home and watch tv with a newborn.
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6398 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:16 am to
I would only take off 8 weeks if there was some sort of complication with the baby or wife.

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Should I disclose that info if it were to come up in conversation with hiring mgr?




No. They can't ask, so why volunteer it?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20396 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:52 am to
quote:

No. They can't ask, so why volunteer it?


Its also not an easy thing to not say. If they are hiring you on to work a big project right around the time of the birth, and you want to take 4-8 weeks off?

It may not be something that they can legally fire you for, but you also don't want to start off in a crappy situation with your employer and have to dig yourself out of a major hole.

How does that work for males? I mean does a guy legally have to take all 8 weeks immediately? I had time off so again I took a week here and there when my wife needed help and we didn't have family in town.

That first 2 weeks you generally have every one and their mother wanting to visit and help out. Once your wife is settled from the hospital, its very easy to peace out. One of the best ways to do it honestly, is to take a week to 10 days off at first and then take the rest of the time after your wife's leave is over if she works. That allows you the most amount of time for one parent to be off of work with the kid.
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 11:54 am
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15043 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Even though you get 8 weeks off, I don't see any guy needing that much at first. I mean you are going to completely remove yourself from any and all projects for a long time otherwise. 3-4 individual weeks off here and there would be plenty. You can't do anything but stay at home and watch tv with a newborn.


I felt like this for my first two kids; for my second kid I took off a grand total of three days including delivery date. For my third I said this is bullshite. There will always be other "projects" but there probably won't be any more babies. My wife took her weeks, then when she went back to work I took every day I was entitled to. It was certainly something different and it definitely did not involve watching TV all day.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:58 am to
I had 4 weeks paternity leave when I was working when my first was born. Once approved, I had a window of time(forget how long,6 months I think) I could take those 4 weeks. They didn't have to be successive, and I could just take a day here or there. They were REALLY flexible with it, which is about the only positive thing I can say about that employer.


And I'll amend my opinion. I wouldn't bring it up in the first interview, but probably would in the 2nd if it might interfere with the job.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:59 am to
I wouldn't go there.

And I doubt you will get this benefit in the first 6 months.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20396 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

And I doubt you will get this benefit in the first 6 months.



Great point. Op needs to determine if this is something that applies immediately, it may take 90 days, 6 months, 1 year to vest into. Hard to say.

My wife got hired pregnant, and very pregnant. So it's not impossible to happen, but I would be pretty pissed if I hired someone and 1-2 months in they take 8 weeks off for a baby unless it was completely necessary.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

My wife got hired pregnant, and very pregnant. So it's not impossible to happen, but I would be pretty pissed if I hired someone and 1-2 months in they take 8 weeks off for a baby unless it was completely necessary.


happened to me! I hired her, we were friends. She knew she was pregnant (~ 4 mos) and then after she started dropped that on us. She took 6 months off too. It really fricked me big time and I was pissed.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20396 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:40 pm to
Ha, what I meant was that a company hired my wife knowing she was due in two months and was requiring 9 weeks off after that.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20360 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:02 am to
Absolutely not. I switched jobs about 6 months ago and my wife was pregnant. Company gives me 6 weeks paternity that I have toake over - max of 3 leaves. I am taking 3 2 week tranches. We have about 20 people in our group and we are cycling through 5 paternity leaves with 2 more starting in a few months. My manager is not happy.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9341 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:36 am to
quote:

And if you've only been there a few months and feel weird taking 8 weeks off...then don't take all 8 weeks off

This, and see when it expires after the delivery. I get one week, but I can take those hours off anytime I need to within a few months after delivery. For just a week though, I have always taken it at one time the week after delivery.
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 8:37 am
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7162 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:06 am to
Do you have to be there a minimum amount of time before being eligible?

FMLA doesn't kick in until you have been at a place for at least a year.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11267 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:03 am to
quote:

My manager is not happy.


And yet he will survive. And by offering better benefits will hopefully have a strong team remaining through the gaps.
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