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My education as an Investment
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:47 am
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:47 am
My mom and dad have been on my arse about law or grad school telling me it's "an investment". while I get the merits of this, I am only at LSU to get my degree and get out. I really don't even care, I am 25, a veteran and ready to make some money, and to actually work...
Is law school really worth a 3 yr investment of my time and money? I'd really rather see if I like how law is actually applied to corporate environments and then get a company to pay me to go back. can anyone talk some sense to me?
Is law school really worth a 3 yr investment of my time and money? I'd really rather see if I like how law is actually applied to corporate environments and then get a company to pay me to go back. can anyone talk some sense to me?
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:51 am to chesty
What do you want to do? What experience do you have from the military? Going to grad school for the sake of going is a bad idea without a plan to use/apply that "investment".
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:53 am to chesty
The market is flooded with lawyers who went to law school because they didn't know what else to do, and they all hate themselves.
You are a veteran and a graduate, go do whatever the hell you want to do.
You are a veteran and a graduate, go do whatever the hell you want to do.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:55 am to chesty
Stop listening to your parents. It's not a good investment if you don't want to do it.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:12 am to Five0
I'd be interested in the corporate and environmental litigation that goes into oil and gas along with the actual compliance and inspections. I really would like to find a job where I could see how the compliance and inspections are done in agreement with the legal department. I am currently in Marine Reserves and I have learned a ton about my self.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:15 am to chesty
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Is law school really worth a 3 yr investment of my time and money?
Definitely not now. Too many law graduates, not enough jobs. After the downturn, companies cut their legal budgets and started contesting bills. At the same time people stopped hiring so lots of people went to law school. The universities see law schools as money makers and take way too many applicants. The ABA was stupid and never tried to restrict entry like med schools to keep demand for services and salaries up. The legal market is way oversaturated in Louisiana.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:18 am to chesty
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I'd be interested in the corporate and environmental litigation that goes into oil and gas along with the actual compliance and inspections.
It is not easy to get in-house with an O&G company. Their legal departments are typically based in Houston and they hire people with connections and experience from Texas.
You could maybe try for an EHS position, but going to lawschool at your age to get into EHS would not be worth it.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:23 am to NOFOX
I like the EHS positions, but most companies see that I am in Political science and laugh me off. I have all the leadership and initiative that you could want from a prior-service employee. I know I can learn what ever is put in front of me
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:32 am to chesty
Have you considered JAG? I have a couple of friends from law school, one with a military background and one without, that went that route and seem to be enjoying it. Between military scholarships, a job with the undergrad ROTC during law school, and JAG loan forgiveness one of my friends basically went to law school for free.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:40 am to chesty
Environmental stuff is a LOT of learning regs on the job. Someone should hire you even at a very low type of position. Hell maybe even deq, not sure of their current hiring status however. I know lots of people in the field who had no prior education or knowledge of it who now run businesses
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:56 am to chesty
I get this question frequently, and my answer is always the same:
You should go to law school if you actively want to be a practicing attorney. If you do not or don't know, you should not go to law school.
It's really that simple.
You should go to law school if you actively want to be a practicing attorney. If you do not or don't know, you should not go to law school.
It's really that simple.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:00 pm to chesty
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I'd really rather see if I like how law is actually applied to corporate environments and then get a company to pay me to go back.
Much better reason for waiting. I know too many lawyers still living at home because they aren't making shite.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:09 pm to chesty
Heres the answer
If you can do it without debt, do it
If not, dont
If you can do it without debt, do it
If not, dont
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:12 pm to chesty
Are your parents attorneys? I cannot possibly imagine anyone actively pushing someone to go to law school right now.
Are companies paying for law school?
If you want to be an attorney, then go to law school. If not, figure out what you want to do, then go get the education needed for it. Tons, and I mean tons, of great jobs out there where a good ole bachelor degree works just fine.
Are companies paying for law school?
If you want to be an attorney, then go to law school. If not, figure out what you want to do, then go get the education needed for it. Tons, and I mean tons, of great jobs out there where a good ole bachelor degree works just fine.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:14 pm to Retrograde
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The market is flooded with lawyers who went to law school because they didn't know what else to do, and they all hate themselves. You are a veteran and a graduate, go do whatever the hell you want to do.
This is not bad advice. I wouldn't say I hate myself, but practicing law definitely has its ups and downs. 25 is grown man status. You ought to be able to figure it out yourself.
Ask them if they are paying for grad school/law school and supporting you while you go.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 2:01 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Heres the answer
If you can do it without debt, do it
If not, dont
I agree with this.
Also, maybe look into going to grad school for environmental science if regs and compliance interest you. My FIL did that, and has done well for himself.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 2:25 pm to Epic Cajun
My motto is exactly that, I did have to take out a little bit of debt because of a financial aid issue, but I will have it paid off within 6 months of graduation. I was able to put it on my travel rewards CC.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 2:59 pm to chesty
You do realize that cc interest rates are usually in the 15-25% range?
And the "bad" student loan debt I hear about on here is like 7%?
The cc interest rate is probably triple the student loan rate. Using a CC makes no sense.
And the "bad" student loan debt I hear about on here is like 7%?
The cc interest rate is probably triple the student loan rate. Using a CC makes no sense.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:06 pm to chesty
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Is law school really worth a 3 yr investment of my time and money?
In Louisiana? No. Especially if its Tulane Law.
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I am 25, a veteran and ready to make some money, and to actually work...
Do it.
You can always go to law school or graduate school later.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:08 pm to chesty
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I'd be interested in the corporate and environmental litigation that goes into oil and gas along with the actual compliance and inspections. I really would like to find a job where I could see how the compliance and inspections are done in agreement with the legal department.
the compliance and inspections are done in agreement with engineering, not the legal department
and most of this type of work is done by consultants, who mostly hire engineers or college grads with some type of environmental training
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