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re: Mortgage question
Posted on 5/12/15 at 3:45 pm to 610man
Posted on 5/12/15 at 3:45 pm to 610man
Most of my income is 1099.
When I refi'd my mortgage, they actually made a copy of my last 6 months worth of checks received. I thought it was a bit overboard, but I guess the low doc, no doc days are done.
When I refi'd my mortgage, they actually made a copy of my last 6 months worth of checks received. I thought it was a bit overboard, but I guess the low doc, no doc days are done.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 3:46 pm to GFunk
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Completely inaccurate.
Two years averaged income plus year to date is the standard for a conforming mortgage. There may be exceptions but 2 months of that type of income isn't going to be one.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 5:11 pm to 610man
Is this her first job or just a new job?
As long as she has a 2yr history you will be fine
Use FHA regardless so you dont waste all your cash on the down payment and get easier guidelines.
MI was reduce to .8%. Dont listen to people who say to avoid pmi
Your not sticking with this loan longer than 5-7yrs
As long as she has a 2yr history you will be fine
Use FHA regardless so you dont waste all your cash on the down payment and get easier guidelines.
MI was reduce to .8%. Dont listen to people who say to avoid pmi
Your not sticking with this loan longer than 5-7yrs
Posted on 5/12/15 at 5:59 pm to 610man
Never heard of this. My wife is a speech language pathologist (fancy name for speech therapist I guess) and gets paid hourly by the hospital. She always has 40 hours of work per week. We just put her annual income on the documents and never got questioned.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:02 pm to TigerTatorTots
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My wife is a speech language pathologist (fancy name for speech therapist I guess) and gets paid hourly by the hospital. She always has 40 hours of work per week.
And I'm sure she had to supply W2's and paystubs. Hourly isn't the issue here. It's length of employment most likely combined with work history.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:25 pm to VABuckeye
quote:When we applied for pre-approval, she was in her position for 4 months. She had a W-2, but it was from a previous job.
And I'm sure she had to supply W2's and paystubs. Hourly isn't the issue here. It's length of employment most likely combined with work history.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:07 pm to TigerTatorTots
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Never heard of this. My wife is a speech language pathologist (fancy name for speech therapist I guess) and gets paid hourly by the hospital. She always has 40 hours of work per week. We just put her annual income on the documents and never got questioned.
Your wife's pay plan has nothing to do with this situation. The only similarity is their job title.
The OP's wife is essentially 100 % commission with only a few months of history.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:10 pm to MikeBRLA
OP said his wife works hourly which is why they won't count her income. My wife is hourly...that is a similarity of importance
ETA: I guess I should have added that my wife would not get 40 hours if she didn't always have patients. Its a large hospital so she always has patients.
ETA: I guess I should have added that my wife would not get 40 hours if she didn't always have patients. Its a large hospital so she always has patients.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:12 pm to TigerTatorTots
No it isn't. Your wife had a w2 from a similar job, correct?
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:19 pm to VABuckeye
quote:changed industries...taught the same stuff but was salaried in a totally different field (school system vs hospital)
No it isn't. Your wife had a w2 from a similar job, correct?
The w-2 had no merit going forward since it was known that my wife no longer worked that position. It was required to prove employment, but they couldn't use that as a future gauge of her income since it was a different job
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:32 pm to TigerTatorTots
Try to find a lender that still has an in house underwriter
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:09 pm to TigerTatorTots
Thanks for all the responses. Wife is w-2, and is paid hourly, and she clarified some things with her work today, technically they guarantee her 32 hours a week. This is her first job in the field, graduated in the fall. She has gotten more than 32 hours so far every week, and has gotten at least 40 every week. She would not get paid for 40 every week unless she has patients, which has not been an issue, and she has been told is never going to be an issue. So I'm assuming now we will be able to add her income, may not be the exact income she makes, but close to it.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:12 pm to 610man
Provide the contract that states 32 hours minimum pay and her pay stubs. They should at least count her income at around 1660 hours annually.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:15 pm to Golfer
Do you know if they're offering 3-5 percent down 30 year non FHA conventional loans?
Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:14 pm to Paul Allen
I put 5% on a conventional loan that was closed in March.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:02 am to VABuckeye
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VABuckeye
quote:
Two years averaged income plus year to date is the standard for a conforming mortgage. There may be exceptions but 2 months of that type of income isn't going to be one.
I can write an LOX with a copy of her job offer w/details re: rate of pay & minimum hours, a paystub, a verbal and written VOE, and a copy of her degree and get her qualified conventional. Whether you want to call it an exception or not what you said is inaccurate.
You've been using your cookie cutter a bit too long. That's what I hate about the industry. That type of advice-to me-is like staring down your nose at younger borrowers or folks who went to school later on and have just altered their life with a radical income increase.
These people don't deserve some flippant response about, "Well, no..." and then a dissertation about what you prefer to get a quick, painless, frictionless preapproval and underwriting process.
What people deserve is someone who knows how to get things done-legally and ethically-in situation where some sleeve-rolling and dirty fingernails may be required in order to do it.
Your comments were inaccurate, they're a disservice to a significant segment of mortgage customers and they detract from the discussion in my opinion.
This guy needs help in figuring out how to get things done. Not some bland, arcane advice from someone who doesn't want to WORK to help someone achieve a goal. Which is the job description in this biz-which many folks have forgotten.
/endangryrant
EDIT: After reading this it sounds harsh and condescending. For that I'm sorry. I am truly frustrated by what I feel is a general laziness in the mortgage profession. However my comments still stand despite my apology.
This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 10:13 am
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:52 am to GFunk
Great post, and I agree with what you said. I have heard in recent days, others say there are ways to get this done. My wife has verified that she is guaranteed 32 hours a week, which would give us some of her income, but not her full income. She has always gotten at least 40 hours a week. What do you suggest from this point?
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:56 am to 610man
Find a local bank with its own money to lend...my self-employed husband (with a steady contract gig, most of his pay is 1099 income) and I have never had a problem securing a mortgage (house, lot, construction) using LOCAL LENDERS. His P&L statement & contract employment agreement were problematic for the mortgage brokerage we approached, while the local bank was more than accommodating. Esp if you live in a rural area, relationships still matter.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:12 am to GFunk
Not going to get in middle to LO pissing match, but here in Middle TN portfolio products are also a very good option, especially for musicians.
Not saying her income can't be used but the time of employment and 100% commission based pay will have some affect on your borrowing power.
Not saying her income can't be used but the time of employment and 100% commission based pay will have some affect on your borrowing power.
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