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Mortgage interest deduction what am I missing

Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:54 pm
everyone talks about how they can write off mortgage on taxes. I'm married with no kids and don't have many other deductions. We never get close to the standard 12k deduction.What am I missing?
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 1:03 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35573 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

how they can right off there


Posted by LSUengineer12
The Best Side
Member since Dec 2011
1850 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:57 pm to
Yeah, if you're married, and get the 12,600 deduction, it won't help you. Found that out the hard way this year.

When I was filing single, and getting the 6,300, claiming mortgage interest was money! It was $7,000+ some years.

ETA: If you're itemizing more than just M.I., it's beneficial. But in order for itemization to help at all, it's gotta be over 12,600. Someone correct if I'm wrong, please.
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 1:06 pm to
Sorry VAbuckeye,that is a little embarrassing
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

what am I missing
More deductions or a bigger housenote
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27083 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 1:28 pm to
I would link you to the thread where I countered people citing the deduction as a reason to buy over renting, but I'm on my phone and it's simply not worth the effort
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89566 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

I would link you to the thread where I countered people citing the deduction as a reason to buy over renting, but I'm on my phone and it's simply not worth the effort


Renting is absolutely the way for younger folks, single folks and those with no children. The tax benefits do not accrue until you have developed a sophisticated and robust package of deductions you can bundle with HMID - now the mortgage can be the foundation for folks who are self employed to get the tax benefits of other things - in particular if you own a lot of investment real estate, generally, it can make sense.

But purely from a housing standpoint, a lot of folks are buying and not getting this deduction.
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 2:09 pm to
So really even if you have 13k mortgage deduction it really should only be looked at as a $400 because you would get 12.6 for just living. Am I wrong in my thinking here?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89566 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

So really even if you have 13k mortgage deduction it really should only be looked at as a $400 because you would get 12.6 for just living. Am I wrong in my thinking here?


In insolation, you can think of every deduction that way - you want to look at deductions in the aggregate. Now, I'm not in favor of seeking out deductions, because those are normally at a net cost. But, if you are engaging in activity that results in tax deductions, more power to you. Credits on the other hand, generally afford the most benefit and might be worth seeking out in certain circumstances.

However, to your point - if your ONLY deduction is a $13k mortgage interest, your analysis is correct that you are only yielding a $400 deduction because if you rented (or owned outright) you would get the $12,600.
Posted by LSUKTR
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
1489 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

everyone talks about how they can write off mortgage on taxes. I'm married with no kids and don't have many other deductions. We never get close to the standard 12k deduction.What am I missing?


You got your property tax in there?
Posted by OMapologist
Member since Oct 2015
594 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 2:48 pm to
Mortgage interest + state income taxes + real estate taxes + personal property taxes + charitable contributions + some other deductions you probably don't have = your itemized deduction.

Pro tip - If you're close to itemizing, but don't quite meet the threshold ($12,600) federally it still makes sense to itemize your deductions sometimes because the tax savings on your state return could be greater than the cost on your federal return.

Happy filing!
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 2:50 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37126 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:29 pm to
If you bought your house since 2008 and you don't have a huge house... unless you pay a ton of taxes or you give away a lot of money... you won't get much benefit at all of the interest deduction.

Chaps my rear every time one of the loser real estate agents goes on and on about how an interest deduction is why you should buy.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

If you bought your house since 2008 and you don't have a huge house... unless you pay a ton of taxes or you give away a lot of money... you won't get much benefit at all of the interest deduction.


Or live in a high-cost area like DC, NY, SF, etc.
Posted by LSUEEAlum
Member since Oct 2013
799 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

You got your property tax in there?


If you live in EBRP not this year. Killed me on my tax return this year not being able to claim property tax. But for your 2017 tax return you get to claim two years of property tax so I guess it all evens out.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:22 pm to
You could have paid your EBR taxes in 2016 even though the extension existed.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35220 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 1:35 am to
I did.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51910 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:18 am to
Actually, you probably come out ahead really. With a standard deduction taking a sizable portion of the hit while overloading the following year, you'll probably come out ahead.

Example:

Interest + Tax= 7000 means ~250 on a single tax return.

Interest + 2 year tax = 9000 means ~750 on single tax return.

500 (from two 250 one years) < 750.



So minus opportunity cost considerations, if you can wait, you win.
This post was edited on 3/18/17 at 3:24 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20902 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:17 pm to
Property taxes+PMI+mortgage interest+ lots of other things to itemize doesn't get you over $12600?
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