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Mortgage demand falls to lowest level in 22 years amid rising rates, slowing home sales

Posted on 6/8/22 at 11:41 am
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16983 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 11:41 am
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Applications for a mortgage to purchase a home fell 7% for the week and were 21% lower than the same week one year ago.

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Mortgage rates are back on the upswing, after a brief decline in May, and the housing market is still suffering from a lack of listings. As a result, mortgage demand continues to drop.

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The vast majority of mortgage holders now have rates considerably lower than the current one, and even those who would like to pull cash out of their homes are choosing second mortgages, rather than refinancing their first liens

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Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12306 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 11:49 am to
Amazing to think less than a year ago, people were getting mid 2's for 30 year loans. Glad I locked in at 2.75 last year. Gonna end up being one of the best financial decisions I've made to refi.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10570 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 11:54 am to
We got in at 3.6. I knew our rate wasn't the best and I was pretty down about it.

Looking pretty good right now though
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 11:56 am to
I think it probably has to do more with the economy than rates, though rates are an issue too.

I think all of the firms that have been buying up single family homes are going to load up even heavier on them during this downturn, then it'll be interesting to see how prices go when demand ticks up again. Those houses GS, BlackRock, etc are buying may never be on the market again (in theory).
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80779 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 11:59 am to
2.5 locked in for 30 years January 2021

Never paying a penny more than my minimum note
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 12:00 pm
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1423 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 12:13 pm to
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Never paying a penny more than my minimum note


Same. 2.25% locked for 30 years last May. Even though I'm looking to retire early within 10 years, I won't pay this off ahead of time.
Posted by BayouBengal23
BR
Member since Mar 2019
570 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 12:18 pm to
Can you explain the reasoning behind never paying more than the minimum note?

Always thought it’d be a good idea to pay off early! Thanks!!
Posted by RJSambola
Member since Jun 2012
318 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 12:26 pm to
At 2.5% you should be able to exceed that in a variety of investment options.

Emotionally finishing the note feels good, but number wise it makes sense to direct that to investments
Posted by LSUTOM07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
765 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 12:28 pm to
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Can you explain the reasoning behind never paying more than the minimum note?


Investing your money rather than paying off a low interest rate mortgage will always win in the long run.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 12:41 pm to
I’m already seeing reductions on a good bit of homes that have been on the market 30+ days. Not saying we are headed for a crash but I do believe the days of buying houses site unseen, inspection waivers, and bids above appraisal will be coming to a stop very soon.
Posted by BadatBourre
Member since Jan 2019
741 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 12:46 pm to
Its only worth it if you will absolutely use the extra money to invest. Most people wont, and as for me the extra $100 a month that I pay on my note, its going to knock off 8 years of my 30 yr loan. Its automatically deducted, requires no thought on my part, and its painless.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75215 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:05 pm to
We’re still several years away from adequate inventory. Prices are going to simply stabilize, not go down.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50124 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Investing your money rather than paying off a low interest rate mortgage will always win in the long run.


It's a great practice for some. It depends on where you are in work/life cycle... younger earner, yes. Older earner may wish to terminate debt.
Posted by hall59tiger
Member since Oct 2013
2438 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:13 pm to
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We’re still several years away from adequate inventory. Prices are going to simply stabilize, not go down.


Depends on what area you are in. 80 homes listed in the last 7 days on the northshore. 60 of those have already decreased the listing price. Also, 20 deals have fallen through.
Edit: it should only get worse for sellers from here as debt goes up, savings decreases, unemployment increases, cost of goods increase, and most “at-home” work shrivels is.
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 1:16 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123934 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:17 pm to
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Can you explain the reasoning behind never paying more than the minimum note?
As folks have said, you should be able to easily exceed a 2.5% rate over 30yrs.

But, the second consideration is tax deductibility. Given that, the 2.5% cost actually plays out at a 1.25%-2.0% rate.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41613 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:25 pm to
I got 3.5% in June 2016. I kept saying I was going to refinance when rates were in the mid 2's but never got around to it. Oh well, 3.5 is still fantastic and like others, I'm not paying a penny more than I have to on it.
Posted by computerguy
Orlando
Member since Oct 2007
1236 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:44 pm to
I cannot speak to other areas but here in the Orlando metro there were a huge amount of cash sales on houses. I was speaking with my real estate agent and he said almost all of his recent sales (this was ~ 6 months back) were cash purchases, most were from out of town and wouldn't even bother to look at the home. This wasn't just one or two outliers but nearly all of his sales.

The other thing I noticed is that even if you wanted a home the inventory is bone dry for anything desirable (price/home/location), so even if you wanted to buy there are very limited options.

Another factor is that if you own a home and wanted to take advantage of the sellers market rents have skyrocketed in proportion to the housing prices so renting would be a very painful option. For example the driving force for me buying a place was that my rent on a 1BR apartment was $1200, when my neighbor re-signed his lease for the same unit it was $1650 keep in mind this is a mid to low tier complex in an ok area of town definitely not a luxury place in a desirable part of town.

From my observations of my local area interest rates are likely playing a minimal role and I believe other things like the cash buyers clearing available inventory out towards the end of 2021, current low inventory and sky high prices and rent are the key reasons why mortgages are historically low.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11460 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 2:17 pm to
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Amazing to think less than a year ago, people were getting mid 2's for 30 year loans. Glad I locked in at 2.75 last year. Gonna end up being one of the best financial decisions I've made to refi.

I refinaced my VA loan at 2.25%. Jokers are constantly sending me refi offers in the mail. LOL!
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10417 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 2:19 pm to
Any idea what price range those decreases came from?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80779 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 2:24 pm to
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Can you explain the reasoning behind never paying more than the minimum note? Always thought it’d be a good idea to pay off early! Thanks!!
If you can earn more than your interest rate (in my case 2.5%) per year on the money that you would have otherwise paid extra to your mortgage company, it is a smarter move for wealth maximization to push that money into something that pays your more than 2.5%.
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