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Job search methods
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:36 pm
Long story short, the place where I have been employed for years is starting to slide downhill.
Company morale is down and the outlook is not to good.
I have an older copy of the book 'What Color is your PARACHUTE?' by Richard N Bolles from 2008.
In short, the book is around 9 years old so I don't know how dated this info is.
I got this from his book:
A lot of things have changed since 2008 and I am looking to get his latest book to see what he has updated in this regard.
I would be interested in what methods/techniques have changed in light of Mr Bolles book since 2008.
BTW, I am in sales geared more toward the auto industry(not in car sales).
Thanks
Company morale is down and the outlook is not to good.
I have an older copy of the book 'What Color is your PARACHUTE?' by Richard N Bolles from 2008.
In short, the book is around 9 years old so I don't know how dated this info is.
I got this from his book:
quote:
Worst methods for job search:
1.Using the Internet. 7% succes rate
2.Mailing out resumes at random. 7% Success rate
3. Answering ads in professional or trade journals 7% succes rate
4. Answering localnewspaper ads. 5-24% success rate
5. Going to private employment agencies or search firms. 5-28% success rate
Best Methods for job search:
1. Asking for job leads from: family members, freinds, people in the community,
career centers at your college/university from where you graduated. 33% success rate
2. Knocking on the door of anyy employer, factory or office that interests you, regardless
if there is a known vacancy or not. 47% success rate
3. Using the yellow pages in the phone book to ID subjects/fields, then calling on employers
to see if they have any positions. 69% success rate
4. In a group of other job hunters, a kind of 'job club', using the phones yellow pages to ID
subjects/fields that interest you, then calling potential employers in those fields for a postion
similar to your interest. 84% success rate
A lot of things have changed since 2008 and I am looking to get his latest book to see what he has updated in this regard.
I would be interested in what methods/techniques have changed in light of Mr Bolles book since 2008.
BTW, I am in sales geared more toward the auto industry(not in car sales).
Thanks
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:41 pm to Reubaltaich
A lot of ppl like LinkedIn
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:11 pm to Reubaltaich
Wtf does a 7% success rate by searching the Internet for jobs even mean? 7% of people using this method ever find a job? That makes no sense.
Every single interview and the job I eventually got was from an online ad. It's a very effective way if you know what type of a job to apply to.
You can't go into an office building looking for unsolicited jobs, it's a security risk. No one is going to bother with unsolicited calls these days.
Employment agencies suck unless you're looking for temp work. You're better off cutting out the middle men.
Use Indeed. LinkedIn is great if you're well established on there already. Creating a profile from scratch won't do jackshit.
Every single interview and the job I eventually got was from an online ad. It's a very effective way if you know what type of a job to apply to.
You can't go into an office building looking for unsolicited jobs, it's a security risk. No one is going to bother with unsolicited calls these days.
Employment agencies suck unless you're looking for temp work. You're better off cutting out the middle men.
Use Indeed. LinkedIn is great if you're well established on there already. Creating a profile from scratch won't do jackshit.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:35 pm to Reubaltaich
LinkedIn annoys me with unsolicited requests for me to send my resume for openings at least 5 times a week. Assuming these are real then it would seem a good way to find a job. I am not looking to move and am in the IT with 20 years experience so your mileage may vary.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:04 am to Reubaltaich
Ive been thinking about this myself lately as I will be moving back to Louisiana next summer and looking for an HSE job. My current position came from indeed, but I have a feeling that I will be knocking on doors of companies that interest me or looking up health and safety directors and reaching out to them. Almost feels like whoring yourself out...
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 9:07 am
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:12 am to sloopy
quote:
I will be knocking on doors of companies that interest me
This is a bad idea.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:18 am to Reubaltaich
Hitting up friends, former bosses/co-workers, family, etc. is definitely the best way. Internet job sites is probably the second best, though it can be extremely frustrating at how slow that process can go. I've seen very mixed results with recruiters. A good one is invaluable, but the bulk of them are worthless. A lot of them are commission only, which leads to high turnover, which brings down the quality.
Knocking on doors can work at smaller companies, but good luck talking to someone with decision making ability at a big corporate office.
Knocking on doors can work at smaller companies, but good luck talking to someone with decision making ability at a big corporate office.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:06 am to The Spleen
1. Through friends is the best way. It doesn't actually have to be a friend of yours...2nd degree connections can sometimes be even better and they extend your reach.
2a. LinkedIn and Indeed are next.
2b. A good headhunter or recruiter can find opportunities not posted elsewhere.
If you are targeting a small company, then you may be able to show up looking for a job but this will never work at a big company. A cold call email would be better suited for big companies but this is a shot in the dark at best.
2a. LinkedIn and Indeed are next.
2b. A good headhunter or recruiter can find opportunities not posted elsewhere.
If you are targeting a small company, then you may be able to show up looking for a job but this will never work at a big company. A cold call email would be better suited for big companies but this is a shot in the dark at best.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:47 am to lynxcat
how does compensation for a headhunter typically work?
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:53 am to Reubaltaich
I've filled out a lot of applications on indeed. However I think all but one or two of my interviews have come at businesses where I know someone.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:52 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Company that hires you will pay a structured fee, generally.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:05 pm to lynxcat
Yep connections first, always.
Then online.
Then online.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 5:34 am to castorinho
I apologize for not responding to ya'll earlier.
I have the latest book on the way and I am interested in seeing what Mr Bolles has to say.
I will post his latest comments.
A couple things, every job I have ever gotten has been through personal contacts and/or talking directly to the hiring managers.
I have had no results through web job sites.
But I have had only two jobs in the last 20 years.
I have the latest book on the way and I am interested in seeing what Mr Bolles has to say.
I will post his latest comments.
A couple things, every job I have ever gotten has been through personal contacts and/or talking directly to the hiring managers.
I have had no results through web job sites.
But I have had only two jobs in the last 20 years.
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