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re: Investing In Tesla
Posted on 4/29/17 at 6:45 pm to dabigfella
Posted on 4/29/17 at 6:45 pm to dabigfella
Are there moving parts? They will need service.
Also, more technology will require more specialized mechanics.
Tesla building their world reminds me of what Apple has done.
Also, more technology will require more specialized mechanics.
Tesla building their world reminds me of what Apple has done.
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Posted on 4/29/17 at 6:50 pm to fightin tigers
This is all the service a BEV requires.......so even when you factor that in, its still significantly less cost than a regular car of comparable performance. Go get the rundown for me on other cars that do 0-60 in sub 4 seconds. I'll give you a hint, they're all porsche,ferrari,lamborghini and need at least $5-10k/year to give you that performance.
Posted on 4/29/17 at 7:51 pm to dabigfella
quote:Yes, before crude oil was used there was whale oil.
Well have we ever had an alternative to not using oil before?
quote:No worries there, you've already said oil will never go back over $75/barrel.
push come to shove, push oil to $125 again and see what happens to demand of the $35k tesla.
Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:08 pm to LSURussian
It probably won't, have a happy Saturday night.
Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:44 pm to dabigfella
Buy CVX DBF, not XOM. It would be a good hedge for you, and it's also a better stock contrary to everyone who thought they'd be cutting their dividend. Take a small position, maybe 500 shares. You can back away from it as solar progresses.
Posted on 4/29/17 at 11:17 pm to dabigfella
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powered by solar, l
You don't actually believe they can run a service station with solar do you? Lol
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:52 am to C
So they say they can, you say they cant. Why Is this so impossible?
Tesl actually proposed something a tad bit nicer, with a sort of convenience store like a current gas station would have
Tesl actually proposed something a tad bit nicer, with a sort of convenience store like a current gas station would have
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:59 am to dabigfella
LINK
FWIW Elon has just said
FWIW Elon has just said
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CEO Elon Musk has clarified the plans this week and now predicts that true level 5 autonomy is about 2 years away – though Tesla should still have advanced autonomous driving systems before that.
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“November or December of this year, we should be able to go from a parking lot in California to a parking lot in New York, no controls touched at any point during the entire journey.”
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But Musk also said that while the driver wouldn’t have to touch the controls, he doesn’t think that it would be at a level where someone could just fall asleep at the wheel. When asked when he thinks that will be, he said about 2 years away.
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It would mean that between the end of the year and around 2019, Tesla could have a level 4 autonomous system enabled in second generation cars – meaning the vehicles can drive themselves without a driver as backup, but not in all conditions or environment.
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In other words, it looks like Musk believes Tesla will solve computer vision by the end of the year, hence the timeline for the demo drive across the country, but it may take another year to prove the reliability of the system and bring it to a level 5 autonomous capability in all driving modes.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:55 am to dabigfella
Electric cars are good for the environment because electricity comes from magic!
The end.
The end.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:06 am to dabigfella
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This is all the service a BEV requires.......so even when you factor that in, its still significantly less cost than a regular car of comparable performance.
Am I buying the $35k model for performance or for financial reasons?
If I am making the choice for performance price might not matter, if I am making the decision for total cost then that is a high price for the budget conscious. It almost offsets the cost of the inflated gas prices you posted earlier.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:07 am to TigerDeBaiter
Who said it comes from magic? It comes from coal mostly now, but it can indeed come from the sun. Theoretically the sun can power your car vs going to war w/ shite islamic states,digging up oil in islamic states, transporting it over by boat & risking oil spills, then refining it, then transporting it via pipelines which risks another spill, then transporting it by car to gas station which risks accidents like the deadly one the OT posted the vid of, then putting it under ground at a gas station
or
we can just use solar panels, again made from magic
I never said we would stop using oil, but there are more efficient ways to power vehicles today, the electric car is better in every way, Im not sure what your argument is. Can you please give me the thesis on why the gas powered car is better than the electric? Look I love all of you guys, and LSURussian is my boy, and I hope Exxon works out for him, but like the FB thread again, do you remember how hard all you guys shite on WikiTiger over his Bitcoin thesis at $50? Bitcoin was $1400 yesterday lol, there's some money to be made even if something doesn't fit the warren buffett/graham/whoever low P/E ratio metrics. Lots of amazing companies over the last decade including Google,Amazon,Facebook never once traded 10x earnings and all have been amazing investments.
Also love that pic, that was one of the first drawing made on the tesla sketch pad when they released that easter egg update last month, kudos.
You gotta open your horizons a little, bring a little magic into your life.
or
we can just use solar panels, again made from magic
I never said we would stop using oil, but there are more efficient ways to power vehicles today, the electric car is better in every way, Im not sure what your argument is. Can you please give me the thesis on why the gas powered car is better than the electric? Look I love all of you guys, and LSURussian is my boy, and I hope Exxon works out for him, but like the FB thread again, do you remember how hard all you guys shite on WikiTiger over his Bitcoin thesis at $50? Bitcoin was $1400 yesterday lol, there's some money to be made even if something doesn't fit the warren buffett/graham/whoever low P/E ratio metrics. Lots of amazing companies over the last decade including Google,Amazon,Facebook never once traded 10x earnings and all have been amazing investments.
Also love that pic, that was one of the first drawing made on the tesla sketch pad when they released that easter egg update last month, kudos.
You gotta open your horizons a little, bring a little magic into your life.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 9:15 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:11 am to fightin tigers
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If I am making the choice for performance price might not matter, if I am making the decision for total cost then that is a high price for the budget conscious. It almost offsets the cost of the inflated gas prices you posted earlier.
When did I say it was for the budget crowd? Oddly enough its right in line with the price of the average car sold in the United States today, so the budget crowd can keep doing what they're doing
So last year 7.1 million cars were sold in the US at an average price of $33k+....
next question
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:13 am to dabigfella
I'm worried about my budget when using this car, not necessarily purchasing it.
You have been continuously comparing how cheap it is to operate using borderline fraudulent numbers. They are hopeful at best. Especially considering oil will never go about $75.
You have been continuously comparing how cheap it is to operate using borderline fraudulent numbers. They are hopeful at best. Especially considering oil will never go about $75.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:15 am to fightin tigers
borderline fraudulent numbers? I went on the tesla site and pulled off their charging numbers and their service numbers? Where were the numbers fraudulent? I promise a tesla is much more efficient than your Jeep.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 9:17 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:17 am to dabigfella
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borderline fraudulent numbers? I went on the tesla site and pulled off their charging numbers and their service numbers? Where were the numbers fraudulent?
Those aren't the only numbers you have spewed forth.
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I promise a tesla is much more efficient than your Jeep.
This is pretty much what you are comparing efficiency to.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 9:18 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:19 am to fightin tigers
brother, if you so choose, you can take your car to any tesla supercharger and it cost $0. So you can have free gas for the rest of your life if you want to spend 30 minutes of your life at a supercharger when you need it.
Here is supercharge.info go look and see where the nearest one is. I personally would say most people would rather pay a few bucks, still way less than gas to do it at home, but since you're so concerned about money, you can do it for FREE
Supercharge.info
Here is supercharge.info go look and see where the nearest one is. I personally would say most people would rather pay a few bucks, still way less than gas to do it at home, but since you're so concerned about money, you can do it for FREE
Supercharge.info
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:21 am to dabigfella
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but since you're so concerned about money, you can do it for FREE
Name off things in life that are truly FREE
Besides oxygen, do you want any of these?
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:24 am to fightin tigers
you've done it, you've uncovered the scam that is tesla, congratulations. Perhaps, bc of the insanely high 25%+ margins on the car and the fact that it cost peanuts to actually give off the electricity, Tesla isn't so concerned, but yes in theory if one was to use superchargers only to power his car, eventually over time it would be a win for the user!
Much like a person who goes to a buffet and eats 7+ plates when the data analysts helping the buffet setup shop project a 2 plate maximum for profit.
Is this your bear thesis vs tesla? Bc very soon they will have solar powered chargers which will dramatically drop the cost of charging.
Much like a person who goes to a buffet and eats 7+ plates when the data analysts helping the buffet setup shop project a 2 plate maximum for profit.
Is this your bear thesis vs tesla? Bc very soon they will have solar powered chargers which will dramatically drop the cost of charging.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:52 am to dabigfella
quote:You've just confirmed what I wrote earlier by comparing TSLA to buying BTC: It's speculative.
do you remember how hard all you guys shite on WikiTiger over his Bitcoin thesis
Sometimes speculative ventures work out. Maybe TSLA will.
But it's high risk at this point.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:56 am to LSURussian
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But it's high risk at this point.
Of course it is, so was Bitcoin and so was Facebook. Otherwise, everyone would be in on it.
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