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Financial guidance for a friend of mine

Posted on 12/16/17 at 6:34 pm
Posted by indytiger
baton rouge/indy
Member since Oct 2004
9832 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 6:34 pm
My lady friend wants to improve her situation for the future. Currently:

-she makes about $65k/yr
-4% goes into 401k with company match
-has owned a dsld home for 3 years
-$5k in student loans
-$5k in credit card bills
-2016 Camry that she is upside down on by about $8-$9k

Where would you start if you were her?
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 6:46 pm to
The credit card bills?

What seems to be issue here though?

It looks like she may just have a spending problem and need to tighten her belt a bit?
Posted by Breadcrumbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2982 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 6:47 pm to
see Dave Ramsey
Posted by indytiger
baton rouge/indy
Member since Oct 2004
9832 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 6:50 pm to
Her ultimate goal is 0 debt and a good retirement. Obviously she needs to pay off everything and save for that to happen, but the question is where to begin? And what to do with her car situation?

I read a topic on here the other day where a fella was about 40, asking for advice, and there were some very clear plans laid out for him.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 7:05 pm to
1. Pay off the credit card
2. Keep making payments on the student loans and the car. Being upside down on a car doesn't really matter if she keeps it. It's theoritical worth is irrelevant as long as she's not trying to sell it. 3. As more cash flow becomes available as the debts are paid off increase the retirement contributions. That can be through 401k, regular IRA, or Roth. That's a bridge she can cross when she gets there.

All in all she's not really in a terrible spot. Only real bad mark, imo, is the credit cards. Get that taken care of and she should be fine.
Posted by MakersMarkFan
Member since Nov 2016
92 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 7:10 pm to
When you say “has owned” her house, is she paying a mortgage or does she own outright?

What is her age?

Not a much she can do with the Camry except drive it to 250k miles and start sending a little extra to try and get back on the right side of the loan.

Start contributing to a Roth if possible.

Assuming credit cards have higher interest rates, pay towards those first.

Learn to live lean for a few years, cut the cord on cable, eat at home, pack leftovers to work. Identify where the majority of the money is going and see what can be cut back on.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36172 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 7:22 pm to
Step 1 for anyone is pay off debt.
Start with the smallest and work your way up.
The debt snowball is awesome
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 7:46 pm to
If that’s what she’s looking for.


Pay off the CC.
Pay off the Student Loans.
Then raise her contribution percentages to retirement.


Even with a mortgage and a car note on the Camry, she should be able to extinguish that debt pretty quickly.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89504 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

Where would you start if you were her?


She needs the debt snowball - Dave Ramsey.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40469 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:04 pm to
Does she live in San Francisco or something? 65K a year without kids should be plenty to avoid credit card debt.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:07 pm to
She is saving 8% per year (4 + 4).

Needs to add 7% more savings to get to 15%. If she is a bit cautious, buy Vanguard Wellington (65% stock, 35% bond).

Wellington YTD return is 14.5, 3 year is 9.2, 5 year is 11.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24138 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:07 pm to
This situation is pretty cut and dry with little that gives me much concern.

Keep finding the 401k match
Pay the CC off ASAP
Make the student loan payments
Build an emergency fund

After that a couple good options are Max HSA and/or contribute to Roth IRA.

Importantly, she should rebuild a monthly budget. I think she may need to reassess some of her spending if she ran up a little CC debt.
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