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Posted on 2/4/16 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 3:28 pm to
ULCC is ultra low cost carrier.

I'm assuming the U but that is what LCC stands for in aviation speak.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 3:29 pm
Posted by AmeriKop45
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 3:31 pm to
RT
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 3:44 pm to
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ULCC is ultra low cost carrier.

Mahalo

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AmeriKop

Signed up for EF. Not sure I get this so far. I did a search to Rom from HNL on AA and of course every flight they show has LHR in there. I didn't see a way of taking out BA. I did a search on United and it didn't seem much was available. I was looking on the last column and if it said "yes" where it said Seats. Is that the way to know if there's availability?
Posted by AmeriKop45
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 3:49 pm to
For some airlines it says "Yes" or "No." These airlines don't release info to EF. Most other airlines have actual numbers in each fare bucket. If more than 7, then it will show 7.

You want to start by looking up schedules to find out routing possibilities. Then you need to search each leg with flight number with fare bucket (for AA examples: Z,U,T are First, Business and Coach SAAver awards). This info is different for different airlines. You can get this info by clicking on fare codes link. Then it will show you how many seats are available in that fare bucket for most airlines. For some it will just say "Yes" or "No". You can then set alerts for those legs that have 0 or No availability.


Again the best way to do this is to first find the overwater flight then build your connections around it. So if your overwater flight is PHL to FCO, start with that and see if that has availability. Then see how you are going to get to PHL and/or go on from FCO. Domestic connections are free on AA.

Ex: This is what I would start with:

Link to Image


Or do flight availability search and search by alliance. Once you have routes, do award search and set alerts.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 4:10 pm
Posted by GeauxTigers777
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:25 pm to
LINK /

There is a link. Some were confirmed seats others were general boarding. For the general boarding, we never had a problem finding a seat. The joke in Italy is that the train system is never on time, but we had zero issues. Each non confirmed ticket is good for 30 day. You print tickets at the Staton, and you gave to validate it via a green machine prior to departure (Google it if unfamiliar). For the confirmed tickets, you lose your money if you miss your train. I think it is slightly more expensive online, and you can definitely find local routes by just walking up to the counter. The problem is on bigger trains (Florence to Rome), there is a chance it sells out. Feel free to ask any other questions
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35482 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:30 pm to
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What is the best/most economical way of travelling between cities in Italy? Does it have to be Eurail? Costs $358 for 8 rides.


We rented a car for our time in Tuscany. Did trains from Venice to Florence and Florence to Rome. We did not do Eurail. The two trips total cost less than $150 total for the two of us but I had us in the first class cars.
Posted by GeauxTigers777
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:34 pm to
I think so. We did 3 days in Florence including a bike ride through Tuscany with a winery tour. Make sure and make reservations early if you want to see David. There is a restaraunt in Florence called Tito's steakhouse. Their Florentine steak is awesome, and the atmosphere is one of a kind. The owner comes around taking shots with you and gives you free drinks. Truly a unique experience and incredible good. Also, Florence market place is awesome for leather goods. Be sure to haggle (you can get up to 50-60% off listed prices).
Rome was 3 days for us and exhausting. We rented a room overlooking coliseum. Expensive but amazing. We hit every Damn museum in the city (wife is a history major).
Posted by AmeriKop45
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 5:11 pm to
Definitely going to keep in touch about the trains. So far from what I think I nee to do is use the ItaliaRail website to get an idea of schedules and go to the station to buy tickets. Book tickets for popular routes. Rent a car in Tuscany.

We will need a train from:
1) Milan to Venice
2) Venice to Florence
3) Florence to Orvieto
4) Orvieto to Cirque Terre
5) Cirque Terre to Rome


Out of these - which ones do you think we should book in advance?
Posted by GeauxTigers777
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 5:26 pm to
I would book any that are seat confirmed bookings. I can't remember if you can tell this beforehand.
Off the top, I would say definitely 1,2. The others probably not, but it depends how it routes you. Cinque Terre will probably send you back to Florence and then to Rome. Florence to Rome I would definitely book ahead.
Posted by GeauxTigers777
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 5:27 pm to
By the way, I rode business class in one fast train. Completely unnecessary, but very nice, and it was the only option available.
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 8:39 pm to
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We did 3 days in Florence including a bike ride through Tuscany with a winery tour.

That sounds nice, thanks for the idea.
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Make sure and make reservations early if you want to see David.

Didn't know you needed to but will look into what day and start planning that. Thanks again for the tip.
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There is a restaraunt in Florence called Tito's steakhouse. Their Florentine steak is awesome, and the atmosphere is one of a kind. The owner comes around taking shots with you and gives you free drinks. Truly a unique experience and incredible good. Also, Florence market place is awesome for leather goods. Be sure to haggle (you can get up to 50-60% off listed prices).


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Rome was 3 days for us and exhausting.

Because you tried to do too much in 3 days? A 4th day would've been better? If we do 4 days in Rome we get 3 in Florence or vice versa.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 8:40 pm
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 9:20 pm to
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Out of these - which ones do you think we should book in advance?

Check this link out The TrainLine Europe
I found good rates and fast times. Couldn't check into June but a mock booking on a Friday in April is only $39 Euro in the premium cabin ($29 econo).

Here's 2 more sites I found similar prices and routes so you have options.
Rail Europe

ItaliaRail

ETA: Oh and I would book most early for these as the Super Economy prices will book up fast I'm told. You can book Executive, Premium, etc in that category. Although you may do a Eurail pass so you'll have a few days to use. I'm just going to book directly as we may take 1 day.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 9:36 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35482 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:46 am to
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Because you tried to do too much in 3 days? A 4th day would've been better? If we do 4 days in Rome we get 3 in Florence or vice versa.


I wasn't nearly as impressed with Rome as I was with the other parts of Italy we visited. The food was nearly twice as expensive and not as good overall and the people were what you'd expect in a city. Rome is a must for several reasons (Vatican, Coliseum, Trevi Fountain, etc) but for us it wasn't nearly as good as the other areas we stayed in.

You don't need 3 days in Florence unless you're day tripping out of the city.

RE:David The easiest way to see David is to do a walking tour that includes the Accademia Gallery. I'd also suggest a tour of the Uffizi Gallery if you have any interest in art. Those are the big two. The tours will allow you to skip the lines. The downside of the tours is that your time in the galleries is more limited but honestly I was snapping photos and walking. I have no desire to stand in front of a painting or sculpture and gaze for hours.
Posted by AmeriKop45
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:44 am to
Is it true that tipping might be considered an insult in France and Italy?
Posted by GeauxTigers777
Member since Oct 2007
1571 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:56 am to
Rick Steve's Italy book has some great tips on skipping lines. Rome was busy because we did too much. I would have been happy skipping half of what we did.
Posted by txtiger79
Member since Oct 2007
1014 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:58 am to
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Do the 5 day trial.


Signed up last night. I feel like I'm still searching just as much, but I guess it is quicker. The UA buckets aren't comprehensive, but I assume they are just blocking the engine from seeing it. Is there a way to set an alert for something like "any coach saver flights from EWR-IAH" on a particular day or do you have to pick an individual and discrete flight?

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AA is notorious for not opening up SAAver awards just because seats are empty


Well that sucks. UA is actually very good about it in my experience. Same with Lufthansa. Hopefully one of those come through for me.

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Is there a better way from AMS you think with partners to maybe skip the MUN part of the trip?


Only if you can get a more direct AMS-mainland-HNL routing, but I'm assuming you already checked that.

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Rail Europe


I don't know about Italy, but I checked prices in Spain on Rail Europe and their prices were much more than booking directly with the train company (Renfe). These were for reserved seats.

If you rent a car in Italy, make sure to have a credit card that can be imprinted. We rented at Florence airport and they wouldn't accept my sapphire because they couldn't imprint it. Annoying. This was 5 years ago. Maybe they've finally caught up a bit. Also, I don't recommend driving in Florence. They have an old town that you aren't supposed to drive in. I may or may not have been led right in by my navigation. Luckily, the above mentioned antiquated rental car tech infrastructure didn't allow for the camera ticket to find it's way back to me.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:30 pm to
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Rome is a must for several reasons (Vatican, Coliseum, Trevi Fountain, etc) but for us it wasn't nearly as good as the other areas we stayed in.

Yeah, I've heard many people go to Rome because you "have" to but like other cities much more.
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You don't need 3 days in Florence

Good to know because I think I've modified our trip a little bit. We're going to hit Rome for 3 days, Florence for 2.5 days, and Venice for 1.5 days. It's also way easier and cheaper to fly from VCE to Riga. We'll train from ROM-FLR-VCE. Should only cost about $160 for the both of us and we get to see some countryside. We probably would've paid nearly that much in baggage fees if we flew to FLR and VCE. Flights from VCE to RIX are $100 and direct. Flights from FLR to RIX are not direct and $200 each.
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David The easiest way to see David is to do a walking tour that includes the Accademia Gallery. I'd also suggest a tour of the Uffizi Gallery if you have any interest in art. Those are the big two.


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I have no desire to stand in front of a painting or sculpture and gaze for hours.

I do like to look at some work for a little while but I'm sure a tour is a good way to do it if I can skip lines. I'm hoping since we'll be there in late June it won't be as bad yet. I can't remember when kids mostly get out of school.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:39 pm to
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Signed up last night. I feel like I'm still searching just as much, but I guess it is quicker.

I feel the same way. I won't be paying $100 for this. I'm likely just missing the idea and it's definitely worth it as Kop described for him.
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Only if you can get a more direct AMS-mainland-HNL routing, but I'm assuming you already checked that.


Yeah, only thing I found was Korea Air with 1 stop in ICH but it's 60k miles each using my Alaska miles. I don't have even 60k AS yet anyway, let alone 120k. So 35k each with an extra stop on United won't kill us.
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Rail Europe and their prices were much more than booking directly with the train company (Renfe). These were for reserved seats.


Interesting. They were about $40 each way in Premium in Italy. Did you check The Train Line?
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Car rental

Won't be doing that.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 12:41 pm
Posted by AmeriKop45
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:40 pm to
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I feel like I'm still searching just as much, but I guess it is quicker. The UA buckets aren't comprehensive, but I assume they are just blocking the engine from seeing it. Is there a way to set an alert for something like "any coach saver flights from EWR-IAH" on a particular day or do you have to pick an individual and discrete flight


Once you get the hang of it, it'll be much quicker. Plus the best use of EF (imo) is the text alerts.
You can also see all flights on that route across alliances if you need to.
Plus - its a one stop shop for searching awards on pretty much any airline you can think of. No need to search on multiple websites with different quirks - AB or EI for example.
Another good use is to see the possibility of getting a complimentary upgrade applied to your flight rather than using a SWU for confirmed.

There is some work on the front end - but once you have all your alerts etc. set up, you'll thank EF.

Do Award Availability search for EWR-IAH - then set an alert for every flight on that window that suits you by clicking the little "!" icon on the side.

Another - maybe more comprehensive way would be to do a Schedule Search on OW and set your alerts on suitable flights from there by selecting your fare code. (Z/U for 2/3 cabin in "business" respectively or T in economy for you).
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 12:58 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35482 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:55 pm to
Tipping in Italy is not necessary. Generally if the bill is 48 Euros and you give them a 50 I'd leave the change but it wasn't necessary. They aren't offended by people not tipping.

Watch out for gypsy cab drivers in Rome. Only get a taxi at the taxi stand. The gupsies charge more and can't drop you off at certain places because they'll get busted.
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