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re: Coursera Python Class Discussion Thread

Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by RebelWithACause
Jackson
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:12 pm to
I signed up.
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
2002 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:39 pm to
I will not be enrolling, but I must ask. Would you prefer this thread to be limited to only enrolled members of TD, or would you welcome outside conversation? As long as it adds value to the ongoing discussion that is.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:44 pm to
Anything that adds value is perfectly fine. Even if it's another language. Main point of this is to learn.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
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42480 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45216 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 3:40 pm to
I signed up, hopefully we can take something away from the course.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
26504 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 4:22 pm to
I signed up too fwiw. I may do some preliminary work and get to looking at some python. I've got a few side projects here at the office I need to start doing some DB/coding on.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

I need to start doing some DB/coding on.

If you are going to use Python to interact with a database, I'd like to throw SQLAlchemy out there for you.
Posted by RebelWithACause
Jackson
Member since Nov 2010
1269 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:01 am to
Anyone know any good beginner programming books?
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:23 am to
I'm already taking three coursera courses right now, I'd like to do this just not sure I have the time.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1488 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:43 am to
Ok, thanks, posts removed. I didn't realize there were so many errors in his comments.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1488 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:44 am to
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This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 12:25 pm
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 10:19 am to
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a programming friend of mine


I don't have time to edit right now, but there is quite a bit of erroneous information in your friend's reply...I would take it down if it were me.
Posted by LurkerIndeed
Fat Guy In A Little Coat
Member since Nov 2008
842 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 10:31 am to
quote:

I don't have time to edit right now, but there is quite a bit of erroneous information in your friend's reply...I would take it down if it were me.


Seconded...LOTS of mis-information in there..
Posted by marchballer
The Greatest Country on Earth
Member since Aug 2008
4118 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 10:46 am to
if anyone is interested in web development I am following this course right now. 8 weeks.

LINK

Python is super easy to learn. I use it at work.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Seconded...LOTS of mis-information in there..

Thirded.


From the very beginning
quote:

SQL is Search Query Language
It's Structured Query Language
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CGI (common graphic interface)
It's Common Gateway Interface
quote:

PHP is an extension of HTML designed to enhance versatility, like adding a clock or an animation.
PHP is its own language, not an extension of HTML
quote:

Java was designed originally to create virtual application on a webpage, like the FLASH viewer.
Java was designed to allow for "write once, run anywhere" programming. It was not designed specifically for embedded web applications, though of course it can and is used for those, as well as for server-side web apps, and really for anything that qualifies as "anywhere".
quote:

It was originally written by Silicon General (?)
Sun Microsystems
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Because of Google's anti-security position however, hackers quickly rose to the challenge and produced the next and greatest generation of security compromising software.
Not sure what this is all about
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Finally we get to VBA, which is good old Microsoft Visual Basic also called VBscript.
This was MS's push back to Javascript originally.
Visual Basic, VBA, and VBScript are all different things.
quote:

The problem was MS wanted to make money off of VB and Javascript was free. Guess who won?
VBScript is very widely used
quote:

Operating systems have a kernal, the portion of the code that every command must pass through.
This is generally written in assembler code.
Kernels these days are generally written in C, with some assembler sprinkled in.



etc...
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:06 am to
quote:

With all this programming talk on the MT board now, it may be useful if some people with some know-how lay out a logical progression for leaning different programming languages, and perhaps even a few grouped by target end use.


The end use is important because the language choice generally depends on what you are developing for.

PHP <- start here if you are interested in web programming. PHP is by far my most favorite to develop in.

If you have basic programming knowledge, Python is easy to pick up.

I've been writing software for 15 years, so take your smart arse comments to the Rant (if you have one).
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 4:22 pm to
How's the pacing on this Python course.?

About a year ago I started the MIT Python class on EdX and had to tap out three weeks into the course after spending nearly 10 hours on one problem set and not getting my work accepted. I think most people in the class agreed that it was very fast moving, even if you had programming experience (I had none).
Posted by Chris Farley
Regulating
Member since Sep 2009
4180 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 8:48 am to
Are there any similar courses out there for SQL? I'm too busy with work/CFA to get involved right now but would like to at some point this summer.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:24 am to
quote:

About a year ago I started the MIT Python class on EdX and had to tap out three weeks into the course after spending nearly 10 hours on one problem set and not getting my work accepted. I think most people in the class agreed that it was very fast moving, even if you had programming experience (I had none).


my advice to many of the folks here wanting to learn a programming language without any (or little) programming experience is you have it backwards. Learn to program, the language really isn't that important to you at this stage.
Posted by fbb
Member since May 2007
2513 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

my advice to many of the folks here wanting to learn a programming language without any (or little) programming experience is you have it backwards. Learn to program, the language really isn't that important to you at this stage.


What course of action would you recommend for those of us who want to learn to program?
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