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re: BOIL has become predictable

Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:26 am to
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:26 am to
yall = everyone except Iowa Golfer. Long and strong.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22756 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:30 am to
shite I bulked up to 6000 shares of ugaz pps of 11.49....1st sell point 1k @ 17.49

If ugaz hits 24 I will have almost tripled my money since we first created this thread just trading boil, kold and ugaz.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 8:31 am
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37701 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:37 am to
quote:

shite I bulked up to 6000 shares of ugaz pps of 11.49....1st sell point 1k @ 17.49

If ugaz hits 24 I will have almost tripled my money since we first created this thread just trading boil, kold and ugaz.


I hope you guys keep this thread alive. I'm just catching the last two months of it and you've made me about 20%.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22756 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:44 am to
If I make you 50% you gotta changed ya name to I hate bama
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37701 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:39 am to
$$$$$ > My love for Bama
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16169 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:45 am to
No selling here either. I jumped the gun a bit on loading up shares, my pp is around 13, but if it hits what the Force is predicting then I'll be more than happy.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2472 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:59 am to
Interesting article from a blog I frequent:

LINK

quote:

In 2008-10, the newly completed Rockies Express (REX) pipeline into Ohio displaced gas from Louisiana and Texas with cheap and abundant Rockies production. At the same time, pipelines from the growing Haynesville and Fayetteville shale plays elbowed their way into the Southeast/Gulf market. The convergence of those surpluses crushed the Henry Hub price, resulting in significant ramifications for the gas market across North America, and, by obliterating the need for LNG imports, ultimately, global natural gas markets.

Now history is repeating itself. Those same market dynamics are headed toward the Southeast/Gulf, beginning in 2015-16. But this time there is an important difference in the economic profile of those surplus supplies. In that earlier battle for market share, the opponents (Rockies gas versus Southeast gas) were armed with breakeven prices in the $4 to $5/MMbtu range. Most of the production was dry, and producers had yet to realize the significant productivity improvements in drilling and completion technologies seen over the past five years. (For more on those productivity improvements, see Higher and Higher – Drilling Rig Productivity in the Marcellus.)


edit- I suppose it's more a post than an article, but it does raise some interesting points
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 11:05 am
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22756 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:19 pm to
Good link
Posted by jlu03
San Diego
Member since Jul 2012
3320 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:45 pm to
I also jumped the gun a little bit in the high 13s a few weeks ago. I'll dump around 17/18 then look to rebuy at a lower point
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 5:51 am to
I'm also long. I had tried to trade a drop after the pop, sold at 13.4, but gave up and bought back in at 14.2, ...lost a few points trying to trade a dip that never came

we're getting close again to that 16ish resistance level. do we truck through it this time, or bump our heads and fall back again?

This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 5:59 am
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37701 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 5:56 am to
Booming this morning.

Cold weather stalling. Anyone predictions on thurThursday injection?

Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:13 am to
86 from this guy, seems consensusish

plenty of info on this site (check out forum, tough I don't understand many of the numbers and references
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:37 am to
Weird. Cash was down .06 yesterday at close, and December gas is up .11.

I suspect the market is now trading past Thursday's report. Looking forward to the weather and withdrawal season.

I'm not making a play for Thursday, but it is very tempting to buy some puts for a 1-2 day trade.

Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22756 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 8:42 am to
New info says we hit projection.... I think ugaz hits low 13s tomorrow
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22756 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 8:44 am to
New info says we hit projection.... I think ugaz hits low 13s tomorrow
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:50 am to
Looks like a colder than normal week next week.

Y'all going to ride DGAZ tomorrow, or just wait for UGAZ and buy into the dip?
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37701 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:54 am to
I've got a buy order in for dgaz. Thinking about canceling. I'm starting to day trade which is exactly what I was trying to avoid.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:07 am to
if you're just betting on short-term downward move in nat gas, why not just buy a cheap, short maturity put on UNG?

Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:38 am to
I couldn't help myself. I bought UNG weekly puts for .15 this morning.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:48 am to
21.5s ?

what the hell, I just put in an order for just a few...I still can't get over the fact that my small order changes every other freakin' bid to my level (.18)

you'd be paranoid too if they were all out to get you

ETA: In at .18! <=== sucker!
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 11:13 am
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