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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:26 am
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35523 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:26 am
Ok. Currently we do the following.

1) Max 401k for both of us including catch up
2) Max Roth IRA every year
3) Started a drip last year - $7500 a quarter goes into one or more of 10 different stocks depending on current prices.

I save another $1500-$2000 a month. I'm looking for a vehicle for this money. It won't be that amount each and every month because when an extra household expense hits it comes out of this money.

Suggestions?
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 9:27 am
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7540 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:37 am to
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Suggestions?

Enjoy the well funded retirement.

Possibly look into tax sheltering. Trusts may be a good idea, especially if you have children.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:50 am to
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Possibly look into tax sheltering. Trusts may be a good idea


Trusts are taxed at a much higher level than individuals on income from what I understand.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4582 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:56 am to
LIRP
Posted by DWaginHTown
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2006
9857 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:04 pm to
I can send you my address to mail checks to.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2754 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:05 pm to
Impressive savings for someone who qualifies for a Roth.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35523 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:21 pm to
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Impressive savings for someone who qualifies for a Roth.


We've managed to stay under the threshold but you made a good observation. It looks like we will have to switch future contributions over to a regular IRA in the next year or two.

Which makes me wonder if we should just put that money into something else instead since there are absolutely no tax advantages that I am aware of for me to continue to do this once I can't stay under the AGI threshold.

We're able to save at this rate because we have no mortgage and the 401k contributions don't count against AGI which has kept me under the Roth threshold.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34884 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:32 pm to
Well done. How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

As far as tax advantaged options, you don't seem to have many options left, I know, how terrible for you.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15045 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:32 pm to
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Impressive savings for someone who qualifies for a Roth.

That is some damn subtle MB shade-throwing
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37702 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:34 pm to
I'll assume you are telling the truth, but it makes me scratch my head.

I would get some real estate in your plans.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35523 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:01 pm to
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I would get some real estate in your plans.


I own my home and have plans for an additional property in the future. I have no inclination or desire to have multiple rental properties.
Posted by LSUengineer12
The Best Side
Member since Dec 2011
1850 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:03 pm to
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VABuckeye


Howtf old are you?
and
wtf do you do?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35523 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:03 pm to
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Well done. How old are you if you don't mind me asking?


52.

I did a terrible job saving and investing when I was younger. Fortunately, I've realized this and am able to take steps to correct this. I'm more fortunate than most in this regard.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35523 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:05 pm to
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wtf do you do?


I own and operate a cabling company in the most data center rich environment in the world.
Posted by jeepfreak
Back in the BR
Member since Oct 2003
19433 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 5:02 pm to
Have you looked at muni funds? NAV's are starting to drift up due to QE and the interest payments are Fed tax-free.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84785 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 6:33 pm to
If you don't want to own real estate, perhaps you can look into privately traded REITs. Nice dividends and there is usually a tax advantage since some of the dividends are considered a return of capital due to depreciation. They are relatively risky investments, but it appears that they will only be a small portion of your overall portfolio.

Also, I'd look into individual muni bonds rather than bond funds. Federal and potentially state tax breaks from the interest.

I'm somewhat at a loss finding anything that will give you immediate tax breaks.

ETA: if you're maxing out your 401k, I assume you're talking about the $23,000 cap for employee contributions. If you own the company, perhaps you can consider increasing the employer contributions for everyone, and/or taking home a smaller income and keeping more in the business.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 6:41 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35523 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:16 pm to
Slacks tear,

Thank you. Some food for thought and good insight. Looks like I have research to do.
Posted by austiger
Austin
Member since Apr 2012
743 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:46 pm to
You're heavily invested in stocks. I'd consider real estate or bonds to diversify. Sounds like you can actually do both - buy a rental house and get some bonds that you can just sit on & collect the relatively safe 5-7% depending on what you choose.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:02 pm to
Vanguard Wellington Fund
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 8:21 am to
Just put in the market. Liquid, margin available. You might consider low dividend paying stock to minimize ordinary income.

Put it to debt reduction if you have any.

I do think sometimes people over emphasis the need to avoid taxes.
Oh sure it is a consideration for everyone but there is no need to pass up good investment opportunities because you going to have to pay taxes on the profits.

That said if you have kids you might max out a 529 plan for college.

Why DRIPS? As cheap as you can buy stock now what advantage are you getting from DRIP? Don't you have to transfer those stock into a brokerage account to sell them?

FTW I do my most speculative stock investing in my retirement accounts since that involves moving in and out of stocks more frequently for me. I want my gains non taxable. Of course if you have loses in retirement accounts there is no point to having them---particularly ROTHS--but that is a risk I take. I buy and hold in taxable accounts.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 8:26 am
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