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$200/barrel in future?

Posted on 2/3/15 at 2:26 pm
Posted by TigerSaint1
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 2:26 pm
$200 per barrel of oil in the future?

Read this article yesterday and wanted some opinions?
Posted by Spec1
Lost but making good time
Member since Jan 2015
1983 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 2:33 pm to
I saw that also. They went from saying we will never see $100/barrel to it will be over $200/barrel.

My Opinion: They are messing with us bad!!!!
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 2:34 pm to
When WWIII starts sure.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11425 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 2:37 pm to
absent something really, really stupid (which is always possible halfway around the globe) I'd imagine it will settle in a range of $65 to $80 before the year is complete and ought to trade in that range for a couple of years....simply an opinion taken from watching and reading
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

My Opinion: Lot of people just flinging shite, and hoping their particular fling sticks, so they can be hailed as 'geniuses'


Nothing more to really see here, it seems.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

Read this article yesterday and wanted some opinions?



opinion: not remotely possible without war anytime soon

oil gets anywhere near $100 again, everyone starts drilling like mad, soviets, shale areas, Venezuela, etc.

the premise 'The Secretary-General said that, "if you don't invest in oil and gas, you will see more than $200"' will never occur.
Posted by TigerSaint1
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

the premise 'The Secretary-General said that, "if you don't invest in oil and gas, you will see more than $200"' will never occur.



I agree, I also agree that once the smaller ops get priced out the market and the major players ride this dip out the market will correct itself. It is also why I think majority of these downstream refineries need to be on the front end of this change. Most of these mega-project/expansions might get put on hold due this, but these projects can take 2.5-5 years to complete and there is no telling how high prices can be by then. So I would assume why not be on the front end of this for multiple reason. 1) not getting into a bid war over labor force when everyone else decides to pull the trigger on their projects. 2) have your unit operating when the production increases. Also this does not only factor oil refineries, but also plastic plants and GTL projects that have been put on hold due to the slimmer margins of the price between NG and Crude Oil.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11425 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:31 pm to
If it is not already obvious I know precious little about the O/G industry but I've wondered about OPEC's recent stance and its seeming desire to throttle US production...I've wondered, is their aim oil or to stall the encroachment of natural gas on a global scale, of which they seemingly have precious little of as compared to the US...simply an observation from a non-O/G industry person
Posted by stringer_bell
Member since Jun 2012
113 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:52 pm to
Business Insider is shite. It is the elite daily of finance. Form your own opinions.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97632 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 4:04 pm to
We can only hope
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Business Insider is shite


the story is valid and was picked up by every major news source about what an OPEC official said. the fact that BI ran it does not mean it is without merit.
Posted by TigerSaint1
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Form your own opinions



I did, read two post above yours.
Posted by stringer_bell
Member since Jun 2012
113 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 4:08 pm to
Sorry, just tired of these click-bait articles with ridiculous headlines. You guys probably know the industry better than the BI contributors.
Posted by TigerSaint1
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

Sorry, just tired of these click-bait articles with ridiculous headlines. You guys probably know the industry better than the BI contributors.


No hard feelings, and yes I do work in this industry but more than likely will not feel any effects of this downturn.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58123 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

wanted some opinions?


It's a stupid article
Posted by 8thyearsenior
Centennial, CO
Member since Mar 2006
4280 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 5:10 pm to
I think the article is valid. He is saying that if you have knee jerk reactions to the market and shut everything down every time prices dip, you could eventually have a shortage that causes prices to sky rocket. Makes since to me. As far as setting a price on that sky rocketing, no one knows. Would a business rather lay a bunch of people off and lay low for a few years so it could have record profits and be villains when/if a shortage does happen, or lose money now to have a more stable market...that's above my pay grade.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 6:49 pm to
What we are likely to see in the short term and maybe some long term (if economies don't heat back up) is extreme volatility. The reason is that the american oil barrel has become or been appointed the swing barrel, meaning that US production will be at the price controls and will have to cut production to raise prices. The problem is that US production isn't state production like SA. When SA cuts production to support price it doesn't ramp up production as soon as price makes drilling wells economic. In the US the low price will cut production which will raise prices but as soon as prices get high enough to make drilling/wells economic all of these independent companies are going to get right back after it....and prices will drop again. You see it now with nat gas.

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