re: You can’t be a good coach and use the CEO model

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He’s a career position coach that sat out of coaching for two years to work real estate.

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He got his first HC job in his 30. It’s not like he was a career WR for 40 years.

Who runs that offense?
Chad Morris is gone and his Co-OCs are hisnold position coaches, yet the offense is still pretty good. Dabo isn’t O no matter how much people want O to be Dabo.

I am saying Dabo is more than a CEO.

And the offense hasn’t missed step since the alleged mastermind behind it left years ago.

And was replaced by 2 guys who were also position coaches.

I The defense is the same as it was when he was a DL coach and we're paying a guy 2.5 million to make sure it stays that was.

O has as much to do with the defense as he did as a DL coach.

Do you think O is telling DA what to do?

This works if the head coach is fully capable of taking over either side of the ball. The problem is Ed O is not capable of taking over either side. The problem with the CEO approach is that it is difficult to retain coordinators. And that's why it's different than running a business. shite we almost lost Aranda to A&M.

The CEO approach will not work in the long run because your coordinators will inevitably leave for a better job. This is why the O hire was so baffling. Instead of promoting the best coach on our staff, Aranda, we promoted a CEO type coach and almost lost our best coach. My biggest fear is that the O hire will cost us Aranda in the end.

CEO model works if your CEO is smart, personable, organized and a great motivator who knows his limitations. A good CEO will delegate to his coordinators and simply maintain final approval over certain aspects and not meddle in their affairs.

I am Not saying it doesn’t work.

I am Saying it doesn’t make you a good coach if you can hire other good coaches.

Would you hire Dan Radonovich to be your HC?

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CEO model works if your CEO is smart, personable, organized and a great motivator who knows his limitations. A good CEO will delegate to his coordinators and simply maintain final approval over certain aspects and not meddle TOO MUCH-fixed in their affairs.

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It does not mean total hands off....he usually will maintain some sort of INFORMATION system of what's going on.

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Do you think O is telling DA what to do?

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I fully expect that Aranda keeps him informed and that they discuss issues and differences that arise. Aranda's got the best job he could have without getting a HC gig. I don't believe he's stupid enough to tell O to buzz off unless he already wants to leave.

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I am saying Dabo is more than a CEO.

And the offense hasn’t missed step since the alleged mastermind behind it left years ago.

And was replaced by 2 guys who were also position coaches.

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Dabo was on the verge of being fired prior to hiring Morris. Clemson was 6-7 the season before Morris joined the staff. While they now have co-OC's, I think the general consensus is that Tony Elliot (who came in along with Morris) is the primary play caller. Dabo probably does have some input, but probably no more than Ogeron has when it comes to the DL on defense.

The "CEO model" can work. Clemson is proof of that. However, the difference may be that Dabo, after realizing he needed to change on offense, went out and took a chance on an inexperienced but innovated OC (Morris) who was only one year removed from coaching HS football. Ogeron on the other hand canned his "innovative" OC after one year and hired a guy who had not been a full time OC in nearly 20 years. That's not to say O was wrong for firing Canada (clearly there were big issues with him), but he's taking a big risk by going way back to the past (Ensminger) to replace him.

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I would say almost every other team the HC has a playbook for at least one side of the ball

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So you're arguing that one cannot have success at one level without proven success at the prior level. While it more often than not happens that way, it's simply not a requirement. Will Wade never played basketball. He jumped straight into managing/coaching.

The biggest reason head coaches fail is not because they're bad at coaching. Great coaching is usually the reason they are hired. They usually fail because they're not good CEOs. Sometimes, being less tempted to meddle with your managers because it's outside of your skill set is a good thing. Of course, it's a trade off. O knows more about defense than offense. The reason O meddled with the offense was more likely because it was not working they way it was supposed to, and he left DA alone because he was getting the job done.

I'm not saying O will be successful at LSU. My attitude is watch and see. However, this constant need to endlessly predict doom and gloom based on flawed logic is really getting so old and tired.