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re: Would you take a split of this week's basketball games?

Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:50 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:50 pm to
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Ok plain and simple. Which win helps RPI more.


Forgive me for my ignorance, but which split would be best for us from an RPI standpoint? Is a win against a Top 10 team and a loss against a team that may or may not finish in the Top 50 definitely better than a loss against a Top 10 team and a win against a borderline Top 50 team?

I'd imagine it is better to beat Texas A&M and lose to Alabama considering Alabama is a considerable foe this year, but I pose the question since I would think the tables would be turned if it was Texas A&M and Southern on the schedule this week. In that case I'd expect an A&M loss and a Southern win would be much better than the alternative.
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:59 pm to
I am not a 100 % sure the RPI would matter who we beat. The formula is a combination of winning percentage and SOS and it's the same regardless of how we go 1-1.

Now from a committee standpoint they care a lot more about good wins than okay losses or even bad losses. So given the choice, definitely want to beat the Aggies
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7109 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:15 am to
Yes I worded that wrong. Selection Sunday is all that matters. They will put A&M under key wins. Bama will neither be in key wins or losses. Eye contest. It's like beating arky last year on road. Huge boost
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10135 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:02 am to
Beating A&M is a greater positive than losing to Bama is a negative
Posted by sml71
Run if you hear banjos.
Member since Dec 2005
4310 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 5:35 am to
I'm betting you'll take whatever they decide to give you.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 5:56 am to
LSU has always struggled in Tuscaloosa. I can't remember the last time we won there, and you can go even way, way back to 1970....even with Pete Maravich producing a record 69 points, the Tigers came up short to a Bama club which won only 5 games that year
Posted by BadTyreke
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 6:38 am to
Split this week and LSU will probably be enjoying a top 4 overall seed in the NIT. Almost every game is a must win at this point. LSU has had too many bad losses this season. 12-4 plus a win or 2 in the SEC Tourney is needed to make the Dance. Yeah these aren't easy games this week, but let's not give this team and coaching staff a free pass. LSU has a top 5-10 team talent wise in the entire nation. They should win both games.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28381 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 6:48 am to
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that makes no sense lol. We would rather beat A&M


A win at A&M helps much more than a loss at Bama hurts. In this hypothetical if LSU can only go 1-1, then the one win HAS to be at A&M
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:09 am to
Absolutely. Home teams are winning 72% of the time in the SEC games so far. That makes the SEC 4th toughest conference to win on the road. It's never easy to win on the road. I'd obviously rather a win at aTm, but I'd take either.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14503 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:14 am to
Yep and knowing this team and history under CJJ, we'll do it the unconventional way...beat A&M and lose to Bama.
Posted by camplsu
Section 210
Member since Feb 2007
1527 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:29 am to
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Split this week and LSU will probably be enjoying a top 4 overall seed in the NIT. Almost every game is a must win at this point. LSU has had too many bad losses this season. 12-4 plus a win or 2 in the SEC Tourney is needed to make the Dance. Yeah these aren't easy games this week, but let's not give this team and coaching staff a free pass. LSU has a top 5-10 team talent wise in the entire nation. They should win both games.


I love when people try and give in depth opinions on what LSU's record needs to be, but then they don't even know how many conference games are played. This is like the fourth year of an 18 game SEC schedule, how do people still not know this?
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 9:30 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25125 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:09 am to
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And Alabama is not even remotely good.



We need to break the curse. They haven't been good since the last time we won at Coleman--2004--but we find a way to lose there anyway.
Posted by Sandtrap
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
2370 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:13 am to
Unrealistic expectations?? I couldn't disagree more. The sad thing is that we are discussing if it's ok to go 1-1 over this week. LSU should be dominating people and instead our coach handicaps us down.
Posted by SoFresh
New Orleans
Member since May 2010
3068 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:16 am to
I could've sworn we had won there sometime semi recently, but you're right, 2004 was the last time. I know we haven't played there every season since then but that is still amazing to me.

I feel like the committee isn't as hard on a team if it loses on the road than if it were to lose at home, especially to a bad team. I feel like we go 1-1 this week and Lunardi moves us into the field, especially if that win is A&M. Lot to gain with road games. 2-0 this week and we are firmly in the field for now with a lot of opportunity to come down the stretch.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25125 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:16 am to
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The sad thing is that we are discussing if it's ok to go 1-1 over this week.


We aren't discussing that. It would be ok to split this week--that's not in question. Winning on the road in college basketball is a tough task.
Posted by camplsu
Section 210
Member since Feb 2007
1527 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:21 am to
If we beat A&M and then lose to Bama the retards/haters will be out in full force.
Posted by Sandtrap
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
2370 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:22 am to
I agree it's tough to win on the road, but it should not be hard to beat Houston, NC State, Wake Forest, etc...at the beginning of the season. If we win the games that we were supposed to, then LSU has only 2 or 3 losses instead of a handful.
Posted by Sandtrap
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
2370 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:22 am to
I agree it's tough to win on the road, but it should not be hard to beat Houston, NC State, Wake Forest, etc...at the beginning of the season. If we win the games that we were supposed to, then LSU has only 2 or 3 losses instead of a handful.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:27 am to
LSU is in a position where they have to beat the teams they're suppose to beat in order to avoid another "bad" loss. They also have the beat the teams like A&M in order to establish themselves with the tourney committee.

The margin for additional losses is very small.
Posted by camplsu
Section 210
Member since Feb 2007
1527 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:33 am to
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Unrealistic expectations?? I couldn't disagree more. The sad thing is that we are discussing if it's ok to go 1-1 over this week. LSU should be dominating people and instead our coach handicaps us down.


I bet you have no idea that Texas A&M is more talented than we are. Yes we have Ben Simmons, but A&M had a better rated recruiting class than we did. And they returned there whole team from last year. But yet you still think we should dominate them? On the road? GTFO you stupid frick.
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