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re: Why Were Miles Offense at OSU better than Now?
Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:09 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:09 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Really?
You can't just look at the fact that SEC has the best defense and the Big 12 the worst?
You can't just look at the fact that SEC has the best defense and the Big 12 the worst?
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:12 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:can you fill me in on which offensive recruits Saban has stolen from Miles?
Will your opponents out recruit you because they steal your good Offensive recruits? (Saban, has already stolen a bunch of them and will continue to do it).
Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:19 pm to doze4
quote:I've been called every name in the book on here suggesting otherwise, but thank you.
Great post. Finally somebody that knows a little football.
quote:
Well, except for Saban stealing a bunch of offensive recruits. Can't say I agree.
Like who ?
Eddie Lacy is from Duchtown. Kenny Bell is from Rayville, and Saban scored a knockout punch this year by getting Landon Collins from Geismar and Denzal Devall from Bastrop.
2013 shows another big commit as well. There were others in 2010 but can't remember, but the # appears to be growing year over year.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:22 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:did not hold an LSU offer
Eddie Lacy is from Duchtown
quote:did not hold an LSU offer
Kenny Bell is from Rayville
quote:play defense
Saban scored a knockout punch this year by getting Landon Collins from Geismar and Denzal Devall from Bastrop
any others? wanna bring up Bradley Slyve too? cause you would be wrong there also
Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:27 pm to glaucon
quote:Your statement is true, we 'get on TV'. I was referring to the highlight reel kind of plays that young people are attracted to: big pass plays, QB's slinging the ball, etc. LSU's highlights usually consist of some big defensive stops and a running back mowing down a few defenders on the way to the endzone. It is what it is, but it's not sexy. Big time QB's and recievers are not going to continue knocking on the door if they don't see a philosophy that shows off their talents.
Is there any evidence at all that this is a problem? I mean, seriously, are we really having trouble getting our highlights played on national TV? LSU's game tv ratings are as high as they ever have been nationally. You throw this out there but have absolutely no evidence to back up this stance. As long as you win games and are in the national title hunt, you will get on tv
Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:31 pm to bee Rye
quote:Probably should have. RR left due to the philosophy and we could have used a go to reciever.
Eddie Lacy is from Duchtown
did not hold an LSU offer
quote:
Kenny Bell is from Rayville
did not hold an LSU offer
quote:Do you think they signed with Bama just because of the defense?
play defense
Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:33 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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Big time QB's and recievers are not going to continue knocking on the door if they don't see a philosophy that shows off their talents.
I agree. What are the odds that both Rettig and Jennings make it to BR unless something changes? Miles will say they don't have the "chest" or some such bullshite, when in reality they just want to play at a school where they can showcase their talents. With our current offensive mindset, LSU may not be a good fit for them.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:33 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:who cares, I was refuting YOUR point that Saban is stealing offensive recruits from Miles, which is just flat out false
Do you think they signed with Bama just because of the defense?
Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:34 pm to ForeLSU
quote:
Miles is running the offense he believes best compliments his defense in order to win games.
Yes. Because an offense that routinely goes 3 and out is the perfect complement to the best defense in the country.
Mitt Romney and Barack Obama agree on two things: Foreign policy and that the logic that a bad offense somehow helps or goes with a stellar defense does not make any sense.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:41 pm to mmcgrath
The point really is Miles offense isn't going to keep LSU an elite program. He obiviously had others running it at OSU. Now will he admit this and go out and get someone who can fix this pedestrian Big 10 throw back offense ,or will he remain stuck in the late 70s while we watch the program slip back into mediocrity.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:43 pm to TigerFanNKaty
quote:yet here we are, an elite program
The point really is Miles offense isn't going to keep LSU an elite program
Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:46 pm to bee Rye
quote:Point taken, some are on defense. But that won't prevent the drip drip drip out of the state in the future unless we get our offensive house in order, it's inevitable.
who cares, I was refuting YOUR point that Saban is stealing offensive recruits from Miles, which is just flat out false
Posted on 10/23/12 at 3:52 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:if we are talking recruits that were stolen from Miles, than all of them (Collins being the only one)are on defense
Point taken, some are on defense
Posted on 10/23/12 at 4:25 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:
His tendency (philosophy learned from Bo Schembechler) is to do just enough on offense to win, use defense and ST to shut down the opponent, don't turn the ball over, and "secure victory".
quote:
These are the questions you should be asking
One more question...how was Bo's Rose Bowl record (already know he couldnt win NCs)?
Posted on 10/23/12 at 4:32 pm to tjtiger9
Our defense was scoring some points and getting a plethora of turnovers last year, giving our offense the ball way more times than most offenses would get it. This led to all the scoring.
No one should truly believe LSU was an offensive juggernaut last year. Good defense that scores and creates turnovers every single game, will make your offense look more proficient than it really is.
No one should truly believe LSU was an offensive juggernaut last year. Good defense that scores and creates turnovers every single game, will make your offense look more proficient than it really is.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 4:50 pm to TigerFanNKaty
SEC defenses >>>>> than B12 defenses. All you need to be successful against B12 is a fast tempo offense. K State has mediocre talent, minus Klein, and they are putting up 50 pts a game. Ive never heard of any other players on that team except Klein. B12 D are the worst in the nation.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 10/23/12 at 5:00 pm to KG5989
quote:
B12 defenses >>>>> than SEC defenses.... B12 D are the worst in the nation.
Looks like you need to swap your greater than sign to a less than sign. Presently, your post indicates that Big 12 defenses are much greater than SEC defenses. I don't think that's what you meant to say.
I think that even the Rant can agree on one thing.....SEC defensese are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>than Big 12 defenses.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 5:03 pm to bee Rye
quote:
Eddie Lacy is from Duchtown
did not hold an LSU offer
Kenny Bell is from Rayville
did not hold an LSU offer
Ok both false. Lacy did in fact have an LSU offer early on, Ford committed, and Lacy didnt look like he was going to be academically eligible so we told him we "lost interest" in him and stopped pursuing him. He did have an offer though.
Kenny Bell was committed to LSU as a JR and was coming to LSU, then Bama got on him. De-committed, and is now at Alabama.
Both indeed had LSU offers.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 10/23/12 at 5:03 pm to KG5989
quote:
Point taken, some are on defense. But that won't prevent the drip drip drip out of the state in the future unless we get our offensive house in order, it's inevitable.
Hardly think it's inevitable. We've gotten a handful of players from Alabama as well. We can get more if we offer their girlfriends full schollys and a job.(Obvious Landon Collins reference, and I know, defense)
Posted on 10/23/12 at 5:05 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
quote:
Looks like you need to swap your greater than sign to a less than sign.
Haha yes my bad. Been a lonngggggggggggggggggg dayy
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