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Why Were Miles Offense at OSU better than Now?
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:18 pm
With way more talent available how is it Miles can not figure out how to run a fricking offense at LSU. His OSU teams had better production. Is it a product of playing in the SEC against superior defense, or is it his misses on QB recruits?
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:19 pm to TigerFanNKaty
josh fields was miles' matt mauck
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:19 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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a product of playing in the SEC against superior defense
but a lil of this too
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his misses on QB recruits
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:21 pm to TigerFanNKaty
OC Dilemma
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:21 pm to Jester
because they were playing against Big12 defenses
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:23 pm to TigerFanNKaty
it's the same reason that oregon's offense was all world in 2010 and managed 19 points against a middle of the pack SEC defense in auburn.
The players here are bigger faster and stronger than everywhere else
The players here are bigger faster and stronger than everywhere else
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:25 pm to TigerFanNKaty
The let'er rip attitude is long gone.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:26 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Both
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:27 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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Why Were Miles Offense at OSU better than Now?
were they "better" or just produced higher stats? What did his defense look like at OSU? Miles is running the offense he believes best compliments his defense in order to win games.
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Miles can not figure out how to run a fricking offense at LSU
you should take a break from being on the rag at least one day a week...
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:31 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:37 pm to TigerFanNKaty
quote:Because he didn't have a top 5 defense to lean on. His tendency (philosophy learned from Bo Schembechler) is to do just enough on offense to win, use defense and ST to shut down the opponent, don't turn the ball over, and "secure victory". It makes for some of the most unwatchable football on the planet, but wins games. Did you ever watch Michigan-Ohio St in the 80's or 90's? God awful football.
Why Were Miles Offense at OSU better than Now?
The philosophy breaks down when you play a team that is on your level defensively, or your O is so putrid that it can't even score one TD...then there is no margin for error and you lose. Miles rolls the dice banking that this won't happen, because more often than not it doesn't happen, and then he wins.
The real question to be asked is if this philosophy is sustainable in the ESPN/NFL highlight era (when you never get on the highlights because your team is so unremarkable, and guys want to go early in the draft). Will recruits still come here? Will you continue to get offensive players? Will your opponents out recruit you because they steal your good Offensive recruits? (Saban, has already stolen a bunch of them and will continue to do it).
These are the questions you should be asking.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:39 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Why is Miles winning percentage better @ LSU than OSU?
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:43 pm to TigerFanNKaty
The second Flynn was gone after that last title, Miles went into conservative "protect my freshman/inexperienced QB" mode.
Since Jefferson and Lee showed little to no ability to LEAD an offense effectively, he played everything close to the vest to protect his passers.
It was working and the QB's continually showed a lack of ability to to do what the likes of Mauck, Russel and Flynn had done in the past.
With Mett coming in, we all thought we were getting back to the days where we had a formidable offense. Mett didn't initially look stellar and we have 1,254,953 running backs on our depth chart, so why not just keep doing what's gotten you W's all these years.
Problem is, our offensive line has sustained injuries and it has affected us in a negative way tremendously.
Fortunately, we have a defense that can continually keep us in close games.
The Mad Hatter is no more. Miles is a good coach and a great recruiter. If LSU is content with having a program that plays not to lose instead of playing to win, the current coach Miles is our guy. I really think that string of QB's that couldn't be game managers severly changed his approach to how LSU plays football.
Since Jefferson and Lee showed little to no ability to LEAD an offense effectively, he played everything close to the vest to protect his passers.
It was working and the QB's continually showed a lack of ability to to do what the likes of Mauck, Russel and Flynn had done in the past.
With Mett coming in, we all thought we were getting back to the days where we had a formidable offense. Mett didn't initially look stellar and we have 1,254,953 running backs on our depth chart, so why not just keep doing what's gotten you W's all these years.
Problem is, our offensive line has sustained injuries and it has affected us in a negative way tremendously.
Fortunately, we have a defense that can continually keep us in close games.
The Mad Hatter is no more. Miles is a good coach and a great recruiter. If LSU is content with having a program that plays not to lose instead of playing to win, the current coach Miles is our guy. I really think that string of QB's that couldn't be game managers severly changed his approach to how LSU plays football.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:46 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Mike Gundy
Todd monken
Was josh Henson on that staff too ?
That was a really good coaching staff on that side of the ball.
Todd monken
Was josh Henson on that staff too ?
That was a really good coaching staff on that side of the ball.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:47 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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misses on QB recruits
Mett was the JUCO player of the year. How is this a miss on Miles' part?
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:49 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Gundy
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:52 pm to ValentiTiger
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Mett was the JUCO player of the year. How is this a miss on Miles' part?
I'm not going to argue whether or not Mett is a bust, but there are plenty of JUCO guys that fail at this collegiate level
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:55 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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With way more talent available how is it Miles can not figure out how to run a fricking offense at LSU.
What makes you think there is way more talent at LSU? Hard to make that argument regarding QB. QB talent has been well below average since Matt Flynn.
Just curious.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:59 pm to TigerFanNKaty
1.) Can't develop a QB
2.) Playing SEC defenses
Not a good formula to work with.
2.) Playing SEC defenses
Not a good formula to work with.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:59 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Flynn/Perrilloux= record=setting offense.
Those kind of talents along with decent
receivers would equal great offense again.
The backs and OL are always above average.
Those kind of talents along with decent
receivers would equal great offense again.
The backs and OL are always above average.
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