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re: Why LSU (And Other Major SEC Players) Will NOT Win An SEC/BCS Title in 2013

Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by Tigers'Mojo
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2012
685 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:18 pm to
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Agreed yet we have lsu tards that think it is okay to pull for Bama cause it is the sec.
Not here...Geaux Irish!!!
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68620 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:42 pm to
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Also this system is how a 2 loss team entered the bcs title.


I love this argument. A 2 loss team had to go seeing as osu was the only 1 loss team from a bcs conference.

Again a 2 loss team was going regardless if it was LSU or not.
Posted by Looking for #15
Montgomery
Member since Jan 2013
5 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 5:51 pm to
Point is LSU got a mulligan too. Selective memory is a value able thing.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22799 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 6:09 pm to
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Were they not the second best team at the end of the regular season last year??


This is stupid. Everyone knows that Oklahoma State won its round robin conference schedule and finished the season number 2 in the BCS computers.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8141 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 6:56 pm to
Posted by montrose
Member since Aug 2007
104 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 7:09 pm to
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Point is LSU got a mulligan too.

We played our way in by wining the conference that year and last year.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8141 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 7:53 pm to
There is no section of the BCS bylaws that state a team must win its conference to be eligible for the
BCSCG. Oklahoma in 2003 and Alabama in 2011 both took advantage of this. I understand your frustration, although you really wouldn't care if LSU had prevailed on 1-9, but Alabama played by the rules that were in place at the time. Hopefully when the playoff comes in 2014, situations like this will take care of themselves.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
Moose Jaw, SK
Member since Sep 2008
3160 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:48 pm to
Solid post
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 11:58 pm to
EZE, just to add to your list.

Quinton Dial is playing in the game tomorrow. In the future, when the SEC calls for a player to be suspended for a hit, LSU should just tell them that "we handled it internally" like the gumps do.

quote:

An Alabama official told ESPN Saturday that Dial's situation had been "handled internally."


LINK


Of course, the gumps would scream bloody murder if LSU or other SEC schools pulled such a stunt.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 12:10 am to
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I remember, like many LSU fans, that we DID beat them in 2010 and 2011, and came very close in 2008 and 2009 as well.


And what were the scores in 2010 and 2011


I'd also like for you to show me one clip where Barrett Jones gets away with holding. That's a myth that was conjured up on this site, by people like yourself, and then ran with as fact by the masses. What a sad post
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35491 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 1:31 am to
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Bama beat THREE teams with a winning record in the entire 2011 regular season and still got a mulligan.


I thought you were just mistaken the first few times you posted this 'fact', so I posted the actual record. So either you don't read your threads or you are a simple liar.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35491 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 1:45 am to
Name 8(or 7 or 6) teams '11 Bama played without a winning record. You can't and you've been informed of this several times. In fact, LSU played a grand total of one more game against a team with a winning record. UGA in the SECC.

edit- I threw out Bama-LSU for obvious reasons(tied)
This post was edited on 1/7/13 at 2:00 am
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 7:16 am to
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How did scheduling play into Bama success in 11' and 12'?? What officiating caused their success both years?? Were they not the second best team at the end of the regular season last year?? We both had almost 4 weeks to prepare for the game on Jan 9. We had them beat this year. At HOME. Please please get off the Bama favoritism kick. The BCS started in what 1998, and it took Bama till 2009 to reap the benefits of this rigged system?? We sound like Saints fans during the 49er glory years. Let it go man!!!


Well said!
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50302 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 7:30 am to
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Name 8(or 7 or 6) teams '11 Bama played without a winning record.


Ok. Sure. And before I make this list, I want to apologize to everyone. I was wrong. Bama didn't play 3 FBS teams with a winning record in 2011. They played four. And they beat three. Wait, I am right. I thought Auburn was 6-6 at the end of the regular season. They were not. They were 7-5.

Here are the SEVEN teams that Bama played in 2011 that did NOT have a winning record going into the bowl season. This is the vaunted resume that put them in the title game over a conference champ that had beaten several ranked teams at this point.

Kent State 5-7
North TX 5-7
Florida 6-6
Vandy 6-6
Ole Miss 2-10
Tenn 5-7
Miss St 6-6

FBS Teams with a winning record they played and won:

Penn State
Arky
Auburn


So there. Again, you beat THREE FBS teams with a winning record in the regular season, finished third in the SEC, and still got a mulligan.

Again, how does anyone else compete with this?

BTW, the Gumps and the LSU fans who keep telling me I'm wrong about this: You don't need to reply anymore in regards to this.

Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50302 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 7:50 am to
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Quinton Dial is playing in the game tomorrow. In the future, when the SEC calls for a player to be suspended for a hit, LSU should just tell them that "we handled it internally" like the gumps do.


Honestly, I expect nothing less from the program. What sickens me was how the hit occurred and the fact that an "honest" SEC ref was five feet from it, watched it happen, and did nothing. It reminded me a lot of the Dorsey chop block. Same deal. The possibility of a severe injury to a 20yo kid, with nothing done about it in order to support an agenda.

Things like this, which are so blatant, make my stomach turn. Kids playing a game, but one program is so wrapped up in winning that it will do it at all costs by compromising every aspect of the game itself.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50302 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 7:53 am to
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And what were the scores in 2010 and 2011


They were all close games. What is your point? Oh yeah, since you are a gump, if your team loses by less than two scores, you really win.

Again, more power to you!

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I'd also like for you to show me one clip where Barrett Jones gets away with holding. That's a myth that was conjured up on this site, by people like yourself, and then ran with as fact by the masses. What a sad post


Holy crap. You can't be serious with this shite, can you?

Did you watch the aTm game this year? This is just one example.

CBS literally highlighted BJ on almost every play. They would show a replay and circle him. aTm's big DT was abusing him. He literally got away with holding, tackling, clotheslining on about 90% of the replays.

Now, I don't know what CBS was doing showing this during the game. I mute the TV during every CFB broadcast. I highly doubt Gary and Verne were highlighting him to show the world how bad he was getting beaten on almost every play, but they did.

That was just one freaking game.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50302 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 8:03 am to
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I thought you were just mistaken the first few times you posted this 'fact', so I posted the actual record. So either you don't read your threads or you are a simple liar.


See my post above.

You beat three FBS teams with a winning record in the regular season in 2011, just like I said. I was not mistaken.

To be honest with you, I can see where as a fan of a team that gets special treatment that you would be lead to believe that you did something you really didn't do. So, I understand how you would percieve that. No biggie. I already knew you guys were delusional.
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 8:11 am to
Thanks, EZE, for posting the records. I had just pulled that info up and then saw you posted it.

I hope that Notre Dame gets away with bloody murder when it comes to illegal hits, holding, pass interference, etc and they beat the gumps. The gumps will cry about how the refs didn't penalize ND but heavily penalized them. I know some gumps that went to the 74 Sugar Bowl and still whine about the officiating in that game.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50302 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 8:23 am to
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Thanks, EZE, for posting the records. I had just pulled that info up and then saw you posted it.


I've been going back and forth with LSU "fans" who love Saban and Gumps about this since last December. I honestly don't know why they are in denial about this.

quote:

I hope that Notre Dame gets away with bloody murder when it comes to illegal hits, holding, pass interference, etc and they beat the gumps.


Nah. I hope it is a good game and everyone enjoys it in some fashion. I won't be watching, so I don't care about the outcome. I certainly hope none of the kids on either team gets hurt, but I know where you, personally, are coming from.

Again, I just don't see how LSU, or other top teams from the SEC can actually go into a season thinking they have a legit shot at anything with all of the favoratism that I've pointed out. It really amazes me the leeway Bama got in 2011 from the national media for simply winning a title two years before.

Regardless, my original point wasn't the national media bias, it was our own conference's bias. It is hard enough to win the SEC as it is with these factors, but if you beat Goliath and all of his friends, you then have to beat the national media as well.

And people think the playoff will solve this. LOL.

Don't think the Bama program isn't aware that once the playoff hits, they will never have to win the SEC again. They can schedule just like they did in 2011, lose a big game against one of their two top opponents, sit back and wait...

More power to them.
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
2935 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 8:30 am to
Have you always been a crybaby?
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