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re: Why did we give Ridley 19 carries?
Posted on 9/8/10 at 10:59 am to Smitty55
Posted on 9/8/10 at 10:59 am to Smitty55
quote:maybe it's easier for some to fix? Maybe AP isn't a fair representation of every single running backs ability to fix a fumbling problem? I'm just spit ballin' here
I dont know y ppl think fumbling is something easy to fix if it was Adrian peterson would have done that by now.
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:01 am to tubucoco
Just because we have this perceived stable of running backs, does not mean we have to give every one of them carries every week. I am all for giving it to the guy with the hot hand. Saturday that was Ridley. If it turns out to be Murphy against Vandy, then so be it. Or Ford. IDC. But do not discount his performance because of the general Ford lovefest that this board has.
Basically, if Ford would have had 21 carries for 105 and a TD, with 2 fumbles, people would be singing his praise from the rooftops and predicting 150+ against Vandy this week. Face it, it is the truth. Ford's fumbles would have been apologized away with inexperience and everyone would have given him the benefit of the doubt.
Basically, if Ford would have had 21 carries for 105 and a TD, with 2 fumbles, people would be singing his praise from the rooftops and predicting 150+ against Vandy this week. Face it, it is the truth. Ford's fumbles would have been apologized away with inexperience and everyone would have given him the benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:04 am to slackster
Ford looks like he will get the role Shep got last year. No matter what the talent level , he will only occasionally see the field. Didnt we not play Keiland due to fumbles?
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:04 am to slackster
perceived stable?
Saban has a Heismann winner, but yet Richardson a true frosh got a shitload of carries last year! You guys defenses of LSU's coaching woes is hysterical!
Saban has a Heismann winner, but yet Richardson a true frosh got a shitload of carries last year! You guys defenses of LSU's coaching woes is hysterical!
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:08 am to tubucoco
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You guys defenses of LSU's coaching woes is hysterical!
So you think that the running game was ineffective Saturday and needs to change?
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:09 am to hondo
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No matter what the talent level , he will only occasionally see the field
How the frick do you know if Ford is better than any other running back? How do you know he is better than Ware?
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Didnt we not play Keiland due to fumbles?
Rant Myth.
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:10 am to P bean
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kid has proven a fumbler so far, I think Ridley has talent, but he fumbled last year, and fumbled twice against UNC. If you fumble you should be punished accordingly.
Fumbling is pretty much the worst mistake a running back can make. When they fumble once, they should sit the bench for at least a few series and maybe the rest of the game. If they fumble twice, they should sit the bench for at least a couple of games, maybe more.
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:11 am to slackster
quote:there is one back who has successfully fixed his problem and thats TIKI Barber
maybe it's easier for some to fix? Maybe AP isn't a fair representation of every single running backs ability to fix a fumbling problem? I'm just spit ballin' here
quote:not me cuz i dont think has done enough yet to jump ahead of anybody
Basically, if Ford would have had 21 carries for 105 and a TD, with 2 fumbles, people would be singing his praise from the rooftops and predicting 150+ against Vandy this week. Face it, it is the truth. Ford's fumbles would have been apologized away with inexperience and everyone would have given him the benefit of the doubt
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:12 am to slackster
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So you think that the running game was ineffective Saturday and needs to change?
Not completely ineffective, but pretty much so. We depended on the running for two things in the second half Saturday night: 1) pound the UNC defense and put the game away, and 2) run out the clock at the end. It failed on both counts. Fumbles, holding penalties, etc. count, and they kill drives.
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:13 am to tubucoco
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Saban has a Heismann winner, but yet Richardson a true frosh got a shitload of carries last year! You guys defenses of LSU's coaching woes is hysterical!
Amazing.
4.3 YPC and it was a coaching failure.
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:15 am to slackster
quote:No, that is clearly what I am not sayin because I told others on here Ridley was a stud that argued with me he wasn't, but what I am trying to get you to see is when you have 4, 5 star phenoms on the sidelines you platoon them to always have fresh "legs" in the game, you just don't keep running the same person over and over again wearing him down come 4th qtr.
So you think that the running game was ineffective Saturday and needs to change?
you would kill a team in the 4th qtr. where it counts by using those players throughout, but I don't know what Miles and staff recruits these guys for to sit around!
This post was edited on 9/8/10 at 11:17 am
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:16 am to tubucoco
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Saban has a Heismann winner, but yet Richardson a true frosh got a shitload of carries last year! You guys defenses of LSU's coaching woes is hysterical!
Ohhhhh. Ok. So because Saban has two ridiculously effective and talented RBs, LSU must do the same thing?
So if we have a true feature back this year, and Ridley runs for 1600 yds, 50 shy of what Ingram had, you would bitch? Awesome.
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:17 am to slackster
and how do you know Ford or Ware is not ridiculously talented? c'mon on man, wake tha frick up!
This post was edited on 9/8/10 at 11:18 am
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:18 am to Nuts4LSU
quote:richardson did not play until the the 3rd game. saban played upchurch until it was proven Ingram and Trent Richardson were better backs. and Mark ingram had 150 yrs and 2 tds in the first game
Saban has a Heismann winner, but yet Richardson a true frosh got a shitload of carries last year! You guys defenses of LSU's coaching woes is hysterical!
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:19 am to tubucoco
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tubucoco
Look I understand your point, but as long as Ridley is staying effective, why bother? He was pounding the rock at the end of the game. Of course he fumbled and that has got to change quickly, but if it does, I see no reason why the strategy Saturday should be changed.
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:19 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
IDK what tha frick you are tryin to say? come again?
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:23 am to tubucoco
If you want to give carries to Murphy and Ford, how about taking them away from Jefferson. The kid had 10 rushes Saturday. With our lack of depth and our "ridiculously talented as proven by the fricking spring game" RBs, he should never have a rush.
For the record, Murphy has continuously proven to be a spring game phenom. He is far more talented than Ford. Am I using your logic correctly?
JL had a better spring game than JJ. JL should start?
Stop me when I am misunderstanding how you think.
For the record, Murphy has continuously proven to be a spring game phenom. He is far more talented than Ford. Am I using your logic correctly?
JL had a better spring game than JJ. JL should start?
Stop me when I am misunderstanding how you think.
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:23 am to slackster
that's fine slackster, we are stuck with Miles' coaching philosophy anyways, it's not like someone is going to do something about it!
what are they gonna do, go down to the sideline and try to shoot Miles?
I would never take it that far!
what are they gonna do, go down to the sideline and try to shoot Miles?
I would never take it that far!
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:24 am to P bean
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I like Ridley and think he is a good player with talent, but I really question this.
First of all kid has proven a fumbler so far, I think Ridley has talent, but he fumbled last year, and fumbled twice against UNC. If you fumble you should be punished accordingly. What really angers me, is that it doesn't seem like that has happened. Its not like Ridley is Mark Ingram, who you give the benefit of the doubt, Ridley has not earned his keep yet like that. No doubt in my mind Saban would've benched him. At the very least, 1st carry next game should go to another RB on the team next week. I know there have threads about Kielland being benched for fumbles, well this guy has fumbled in multiple games now without being demoted.
Second, I really can not beleive we gave him the lion's share of the carries this past weekend. Is he really our guy? So much that we give him 19 of the 21 carries that went to our true RB's? I think shepard should have had at least 4 more carries this past weekend, and Ford, Murphy (who also fumbled) and maybe even Ware should have gotten a couple of carries.
I have no problem with Ridley getting 12-14 carries and being our primary RB, but I dislike the fact that we gave Ridley 19 carries, and was truly horrified when he fumbled away two of them.
After the game, he was quoted saying 'I didn't have the best game," which I also disliked, he's a leader on this team and he needs to step into the role. Other players need to see him own up to his big mistakes.
This past week stat line had Ridley with 19 carries, Jefferson with 7 (I think), Shepard with 5, and Murphy with 2. In all honesty, I think Shepard should have had at least 4 more carries this weekend. He had 3 touches in the 1st half and 4 in the second.
Either way, I think this year's has the potential to be very very good if we cant cut out the mistakes...
Full of fail...
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:25 am to slackster
I don't agree with the Murphy comment, he showed a lil stuff against small school teams, but was never quite effective and after that knee injury I don't expect him to do much this year!
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