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re: Why did PM start Bouman?

Posted on 5/11/15 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 2:47 pm to
broski, if you are saying that winning the NC is the only thing that matters, then you are turning into a bama football fan. And they catch flak here all the time about being that arrogant. LSU wins the regular season championship & every player & everyone in the program wins a SEC championship ring. Which does really matter to the players. As CPM said on his post game show Sunday, he'll be telling the players, after the UNO game, that from here on out they'll be playing for rings.
Posted by AstroTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Oct 2007
22966 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 2:51 pm to
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He gave up 2 runs in 2 innings vs. Miss State. Poche gave up 2 runs in the first inning the same weekend! Lange has had shakier starts.



Completely agree. The Auburn start was bad, but Bain really hasn't been that bad at all. The unearned runs against A&M made it look a worse.

Last 4 appearances: 2.40 era, 15.0 ip, 12 h, 8 r, 4 er, 6 bb, 13 k, .211 oba
Posted by ColeCoushCoush
Member since Aug 2014
497 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 2:53 pm to
Everyone has shaky starts from time to time. Lange has shown that he can start SEC games and be dominant. Bain has started 3 SEC games and we lost all of them.

I think Bain will be a solid starter for us the rest of this season and in the future, but I don't disagree with pulling him from the starting spot against Mizzou.

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It was a bad call starting Bouman. Hindsight or no. Plain and simple. People are making excuses and none of them are any good. It's not any more complicated than that.


Oh okay, you convinced me. FIRE MAINIERI!
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56746 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 2:54 pm to
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He gave up 2 runs in 2 innings vs. Miss State. Poche gave up 2 runs in the first inning the same weekend! Lange has had shakier starts.

I swear some of you retards don't watch. Or do and don't understand what you're seeing. Or play revisionist history to defend a decision.

It was a bad call starting Bouman. Hindsight or no. Plain and simple. People are making excuses and none of them are any good. It's not any more complicated than that.



It was very frequently discussed last week that LSU didn't have a trusted 3rd starter. To pretend that wasn't the case is to ignore reality.

Bain pitched great on Sunday...and it's not the first time he's been lights out. That should be recognized.

But, the decision had more to do with Bouman than it did with Bain, IMO. Mainieri wanted to see what he had in Bouman. He was probably on the bubble for the postseason roster. Now, he's probably off it. You guys who can't accept that some decisions blow up in your face are funny. It happens.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 2:56 pm
Posted by JP_Tiger
BR
Member since Apr 2015
474 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 3:02 pm to
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Oh okay, you convinced me. FIRE MAINIERI!
This is seriously what you resort to? I call a spade a spade and because it's not me bowing down to Paul, you act like this?

Like I said earlier... retards.
Posted by ColeCoushCoush
Member since Aug 2014
497 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 3:03 pm to
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Completely agree. The Auburn start was bad, but Bain really hasn't been that bad at all.


The Auburn start was his best start. LSU only had one error against Texas A&M. So sure, that big inning was all "unearned runs", but Bain had plenty of opportunities to get out of it.

Against Auburn, he at least was getting it done for the first 5 innings. Sure, for it technically to be considered a "quality start" you have to go six, but at least he was close to getting there.
Posted by JP_Tiger
BR
Member since Apr 2015
474 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 3:07 pm to
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It was very frequently discussed last week that LSU didn't have a trusted 3rd starter. To pretend that wasn't the case is to ignore reality.
That's how people react... One bad start and many people are ready to move on. That's the reality of this place. The reality on the field was that Bain has done well. Miss St. was his worst outting and it was just as good as Poche's that weekend only one was allowed to work through it and the other wasn't.
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But, the decision had more to do with Bouman than it did with Bain, IMO
I agree. It definitely did. Just a bad call. Nothing more. Nothing less. I'm not calling for Paul's head over it.
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You guys who can't accept that some decisions blow up in your face are funny.
That's exactly what I'm saying actually.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 3:28 pm
Posted by ColeCoushCoush
Member since Aug 2014
497 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 3:07 pm to
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This is seriously what you resort to? I call a spade a spade and because it's not me bowing down to Paul, you act like this?

Like I said earlier... retards.


I'm stating a simple, rational opinion, and you're so mad your posts are just you misspelling the word "awful" over and over again and calling people retards. It's fine if you disagree, but when you're an idiot about it, sorry bud, but it's difficult to take you seriously.
Posted by JP_Tiger
BR
Member since Apr 2015
474 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 3:11 pm to
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I'm stating a simple, rational opinion
An opinion? AstroTiger just proved your "opinion" wrong. It's easy to see he wasn't "awful" in his last two starts.
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you're so mad
I've noticed idiots do this here when they don't have anymore arguments. The person who disagrees is "mad". It's basically you waving the white flag.
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misspelling the word "awful" over and over again
Yep. You got me. All my points are wrong and I'm mad because I didn't put an "e" in a word.
Posted by JP_Tiger
BR
Member since Apr 2015
474 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 3:15 pm to
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LSU only had one error against Texas A&M. So sure, that big inning was all "unearned runs",
Why is "unearned runs" in quotes? Were they actually earned or fake unearned runs?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56746 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 3:16 pm to
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That's how people react... One bad start and many people are ready to move on. That's the reality of this place. The reality on the field was that Bain was done well. Miss St. was his worst outting and it was just as good as Poche's that weekend only one was allowed to work through it and the other wasn't.



It wasn't just "this place". It was the conversation on talk radio. I heard similar commentary from Hannagriff, Ott, Rantz...hell even McDonald on TV mentioned it during the broadcast. In fact, the conversation wasnt' about whether we had a solid #3...it was about whether we needed one.

And, that's not a knock on Bain. IMO, Bain was probably thrown into the fire before the coaches wanted to and he has absolutely survived it. Everything is relative, but I'm very pleased with what he has given us overall...and twice he's come into very tough situations and absolutely shut down the opposing team. That shouldn't be ignored.

However, that's different than saying we would be on equal footing in a game 3 in a SR.

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That's exactly what I'm saying actually.



Well, then I misunderstood your point. My apologies.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 3:18 pm
Posted by JP_Tiger
BR
Member since Apr 2015
474 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 3:25 pm to
We're starting to split hairs... He didn't go deep his last two starts, so people focus on it just because of that, but then Paul puts out his assessment which was that he was giving Sunday a "TBA". Of course this brings it straight to the forefront and many will blindly agree (I'm not saying you are or any of the radio hosts are).

But calling him "awful" doesn't describe his last 2 starts at all if you actually watched those games. He struggled in 1 game and had bad luck in another. Neither were as bad as CouchCouch is making them out to be.

Posted by ColeCoushCoush
Member since Aug 2014
497 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 4:15 pm to
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I've noticed idiots do this here when they don't have anymore arguments. The person who disagrees is "mad". It's basically you waving the white flag.


You can try to turn it around on me if it makes you feel better, but you wigged out over the "fire Mainieri" comment which is pathetic considering you can't form a coherent thought other than to call anyone that disagrees with you a retard. I responded to every point you tried to make, but your posts have boiled down to just being, "I'm RIGHT and if you disagree, you're a RETARD WHO DOESN'T WATCH THE GAMES!"

If you think me using the word awful is hyperbolic, than fine, but it's pathetic that you're so upset about someone being a little hyperbolic on the internet when every other word in your posts is either "idiot" or "retard".

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Yep. You got me. All my points are wrong and I'm mad because I didn't put an "e" in a word.


No. You did put an "e" in the word. The word is spelled "AWFUL". I even pointed it out and you still don't see it. Learn to spell a word before getting all bent out of shape about someone using it.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85169 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 4:40 pm to
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than fine
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Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 4:43 pm to
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but Paul Mainieri's track record over the last few years tells me I better celebrate before the true postseason starts.


Yeah, 28-12 post season since 2008 with national championship, three CWS appearances, four super regional appearances, and five SEC tournament championships sucks.

I don't know how you put up with such a shitty post season record!

Really, some of you guys are grand comic relief.
Posted by JP_Tiger
BR
Member since Apr 2015
474 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 4:51 pm to
That's a lot of hypocrisy in one post.

At least you're backing off your assessment of Bain.
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