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re: Why did PM start Bouman?
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:28 am to AstroTiger
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:28 am to AstroTiger
I haven't pitched since I was on the high school JV team back in the late 90's, but I think I could at least match the 135 ERA.
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:40 am to AstroTiger
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:43 am to nicholastiger
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I'm ok with running him out there on sr day after you already clinched the series
This isn't little league. Paul Mainieri isn't paid to play every kid on the team. LSU is in a dogfight for the SEC title and you want to trot out a senior just for kicks???? That's ridiculous. On that note, Les Miles should have started Brandon Bolden at quarterback in Tiger Stadium against Alabama. You know, senior day and all.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:45 am to Choupique19
The other option though is that PM started him because he thought he could still be a viable 3rd starter... That's even worse.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:02 am to ell_13
Like most everyone here, I couldn't have hated the decision any more. But now we know for sure that we can't count on him. One thing I have noticed this year is that PM/Dunn have quicker hooks because they know that with our offense, if you limit damage then we have no trouble coming from behind. That's what happened and we won.
You also have to figure that the SEC tourney could potentially be 5 games in 5 days, and SOMEONE has to start those games. On Wednesday you start probably Reynolds or whoever is freshest of that remaining group. Then Poché on full rest Thursday and Lange on Friday, Bain Saturday, then ???.
Then obviously same situation for a regional. Ideally Bain starts regional game 1, so with that in mind, we may lighten his load this weekend to what is essentially a bullpen session and he can go Wednesday in Hoover and the whole rotation would have 8 days rest for the regional.
You also have to figure that the SEC tourney could potentially be 5 games in 5 days, and SOMEONE has to start those games. On Wednesday you start probably Reynolds or whoever is freshest of that remaining group. Then Poché on full rest Thursday and Lange on Friday, Bain Saturday, then ???.
Then obviously same situation for a regional. Ideally Bain starts regional game 1, so with that in mind, we may lighten his load this weekend to what is essentially a bullpen session and he can go Wednesday in Hoover and the whole rotation would have 8 days rest for the regional.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:21 am to Choupique19
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This isn't little league. Paul Mainieri isn't paid to play every kid on the team. LSU is in a dogfight for the SEC title and you want to trot out a senior just for kicks???? That's ridiculous.
Thank you for bringing reason to this horrible thread.
Manieri was doing something that Bertman used to always talk about. Bertman used the regular season to find out who he could and couldn't count on in the post-season. Yesterday provided a great opportunity for Manieri to see if Bouman could be of any use to him later and he found his answer. I doubt we see him again.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:23 am to LSUGrad9295
quote:I've said this to friends 3 times already this year.
I doubt we see him again.
I do not know why Paul started Bouman in this situation with the SEC so close.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:29 am to JP_Tiger
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I do not know why Paul started Bouman in this situation with the SEC so close.
Maybe Bouman had been throwing really well in practice and he wanted to see if it could translate to the game one last time? Lefties are a commodity and will get benefit of the doubt until the bitter end. Sadly, I think Bouman has reached his "bitter end"
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:33 am to LSUGrad9295
My point is we could play the "maybe" game all day. None of them are very good excuses for using him at this point, IMO. But it's whatever. Game over. Game won. Bouman's done.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:39 am to LSUGrad9295
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Manieri was doing something that Bertman used to always talk about. Bertman used the regular season to find out who he could and couldn't count on in the post-season. Yesterday provided a great opportunity for Manieri to see if Bouman could be of any use to him later and he found his answer. I doubt we see him again.
Except that he's done the same thing in the regionals.
See McCune last year vs Houston
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:13 am to ell_13
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Why did PM start Bouman?
Since I am not allowed in staff meetings, I don't know. I am fairly sure PM/Dunn have their own good reasons. Perhaps its as simple as Bouman looking good in throwing the ball this week in practice or the staff needing to weed out those they cant count on headed to P/S play.
We won the series 3-0, we are the #1 team in the nation with a week to go in the regular season, we have a top 8 seed, and we are in position to win the SEC...why should we care why PM/Dunn decided to use Bouman? It's not like the coaching staff haven't proved all yr. long that they know what the hell they are doing.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:18 am to LSUGrad9295
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Thank you for bringing reason to this horrible thread.
Manieri was doing something that Bertman used to always talk about. Bertman used the regular season to find out who he could and couldn't count on in the post-season. Yesterday provided a great opportunity for Manieri to see if Bouman could be of any use to him later and he found his answer. I doubt we see him again.
This is what I think.
Mainieri bashers don't want that to be the case though.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:23 am to TigerBait1127
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Except that he's done the same thing in the regionals.
See McCune last year vs Houston
What in the hell are you talking about? McCune was one of the most reliable relievers LSU had last year. Before the 2 games against Houston, McCune had made 28 appearances, pitched 33 innings, and had an ERA of 3.00. What was to make anyone think that McCune couldn't be counted on in the post season??
Y'all must make this stuff up as you go along.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:26 am to LSUGrad9295
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What in the hell are you talking about? McCune was one of the most reliable relievers LSU had last year. Before the 2 games against Houston, McCune had made 28 appearances, pitched 33 innings, and had an ERA of 3.00. What was to make anyone think that McCune couldn't be counted on in the post season??
His ERA was 3.86
And post his stats against SEC pitching. He was not one of our most reliable relievers
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Y'all must make this stuff up as you go along.
Like his 3.00 ERA
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 11:29 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:30 am to TigerBait1127
13 app... 1-2, 3 saves, 6.46 era, 15.1 ip, 22 h, 12 r, 11 er, 5 bb, 6 k, .355 oba
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:32 am to AstroTiger
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13 app... 1-2, 3 saves, 6.46 era, 15.1 ip, 22 h, 12 r, 11 er, 5 bb, 6 k, .355 oba
He wasn't reliable in 2014.
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AstroTiger
Thank You, I couldn't find it. I thought it was above 6 though
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:36 am to TigerBait1127
McCune had an ERA of about 6.50 in SEC games. He made 13 appearances and his ERA was bloated by a couple of bad games. He had 1 win in SEC games and had 3 saves in games when Broussard was not available to save. The point is that McCune had some good outings and did positive things and contributed to 4 SEC wins.. It wasn't like Manieri was "experimenting" in the post-season with McCune.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:37 am to AstroTiger
The irony of this thread now is that Paul should have let Bouman start the 7th of a regional clinching game in 2014 while not letting him touch the field vs a middle-of-the-pack SEC team in the regular season of 2015.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:41 am to JP_Tiger
Funny game ain't it, Monty?
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:41 am to LSUGrad9295
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It wasn't like Manieri was "experimenting" in the post-season with McCune.
Which was my point.
I don't think this was an experiment.
And McCune shouldn't have touched the field in that situation
He certainly wasn't one of our more reliable guys like you claimed.
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and his ERA was bloated by a couple of bad gam
That's how averages work
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 11:45 am
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