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re: Where are the CPM haters?
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:02 pm to oldcharlie8
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:02 pm to oldcharlie8
Milesinieri is thanking the omnipotent Alabama Football gods that intervened on behalf of the Bama baseball team last weekend and allowed them to sweep Auburn and totally destroy their psyche for the rest of the season. They were easy pickings for LSU.
Nothing has changed with CPM just because of a few wins. He and the program are on the downslide. Anybody that doesn't wear cheerleader panties can plainly see it.
The team will make a Regional and if they suddenly get hot and learn how to hit with RISP, may win it. (Depending on who the #2 seed is)
All bets are off in a SR, but I doubt that they'll suddenly find enough timely hitting acumen to advance (Possible, but unlikely) and another disappointing SR will be in the books.
All the MA's will be predictably giddy and satisfied, while all the Realists clearly see the decline and will want a change at the Top.
Of course, "Joe Peas" wont to do anything, but CPM will be forced to hire an experienced hitting coach in the off-season to make it appear he's still on top of things and desiring of a CWS ring.
Nothing has changed with CPM just because of a few wins. He and the program are on the downslide. Anybody that doesn't wear cheerleader panties can plainly see it.
The team will make a Regional and if they suddenly get hot and learn how to hit with RISP, may win it. (Depending on who the #2 seed is)
All bets are off in a SR, but I doubt that they'll suddenly find enough timely hitting acumen to advance (Possible, but unlikely) and another disappointing SR will be in the books.
All the MA's will be predictably giddy and satisfied, while all the Realists clearly see the decline and will want a change at the Top.
Of course, "Joe Peas" wont to do anything, but CPM will be forced to hire an experienced hitting coach in the off-season to make it appear he's still on top of things and desiring of a CWS ring.
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:06 pm to semjase
Do you actually enjoy LSU baseball? You seem to relish in misery
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:09 pm to Chaseff
quote:same old excluded middle that pm fans make up. there is something between "dominating" and what lsu has been accomplishing at the cws. that is where several other schools are and where lsu SHOULD be. the question is why pm defenders are ok with being surpassed by several other programs.
These types don't know how the game has changed and how much more balanced college baseball is and that team dominance can happen from time to time in sports but more often it doesn't last
i've only gotten an answer to that question 1 time and it was lame, as expected
quote:lsu has a budget that should guarantee that the tigers are second to none in wins, especially over a 7 year period. face it, mainieri isn't getting it done
The whole SEC has resources!
quote:there's the problem. pm advocates are ok with "solid." realists are not. again, lsu should be second to none.
it is solid record of accomplishment
quote:facts be damned!
Get over yourselves!
quote:listen, if you don't like facts, that's your business. but to act like stating facts is "gutless" shows you're not being objective
gutlessly criticize Manieri
quote:the fact that some people feel like pm isn't getting it done shows that they ARE fans. they know the results should be better and they're unhappy that someone isn't getting the most out of the program. they feel that pm is betraying a prized possession
Please don't come back and jump in the bandwagon later
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:13 pm to TigerBR1111
quote:
Don't like him though and certain of the annual choke job that will be happening in the NCAA tourney. .
Damn, where does this shite come from since the man is like 35-15 in the post season.
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:14 pm to Broski
quote:the tired refrain from pm supporters. i've asked this about a dozen times - show the post where someone says this. that championships are unequivocally the ONLY acceptable result. if you people didn't have this strawman, you wouldn't have any response at all
championship or bust
quote:
look at his postseason record with Schlossnagle at TCU and O'Sullivan at Florida. It's on par with them.
how in the sam hell can you say this after our lengthy discussions on the topic. mainieri is NOWHERE NEAR those guys. not even close. what world are you living in? quote:EXCLUDED MIDDLE FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
routinely dominating
quote:no, "bad" isn't the problem. "consistent" is the problem. "consistent" got les miles fired, and rightly so. lsu should not be merely "consistent."
I don't think he is as bad as people make him out to be
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:16 pm to LSU GrandDad
quote:uh, yes. several. the question is why pm supporters are ok with this.
is there any active coach in America with those achievements?
the only answer i've ever gotten to that question was "i measure the program by things OTHER THAN cws wins." um, that's freakin loser talk and still doesn't respond to the fact that several other programs can make claims that are better than lsu's over the last 7 years. no lsu fan should be ok with that.
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:17 pm to LSU Groupee
quote:that's not the problem. the problem is what OTHER programs are doing in comparison
the man is like 35-15 in the post season.
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:19 pm to bfniii
quote:
the problem is what OTHER programs are doing in comparison
I've already destroyed you on this terrible argument when you tried to say that Schlossnagle and O'Sullivan were SO much better than Mainieri.
There is no dominant program out there right.
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:22 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
I don't agree , if our pitchers are on,,they are good enough and our defense is superb.
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:33 pm to Broski
quote:i pretty much never use this term but, you are delusional. it is a statistical FACT that SEVERAL other programs can make superior claims to lsu's. i'm not the only person to point this out to you. why are you ok with that? you can't "destroy" facts.
I've already destroyed you on this terrible argument when you tried to say that Schlossnagle and O'Sullivan were SO much better than Mainieri.
look at this chart and tell me how you "destroyed" the facts
oh yeah, mainieri is "right there."
quote:NO ONE IS EXPECTING LSU TO DOMINATE. my word why do you keep repeating that?
There is no dominant program out there right.
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:35 pm to bfniii
Congrats on posting a chart where the top team won all of their CWS games with a retired coach. 
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:35 pm to Live2CTigersWin
I think the "haters" are not really baseball aficionados. They are LSU sports fans who have unrealistic expectations in every sport. They have probably bitched about lack of midweek success for the last 5 years even though we keep attaining a national seed...pretty amusing. We are on the cusp of a national seed now with a pretty bad midweek showing....and it's probably driving them crazy.
Do I think PM needs to have more post SEC tourney success? Of course...but the consistency of getting a national seed is hard to dismiss imo. It's not that common. I believe postseason success will happen again under CPM. If it does not in the next couple years...then get new blood...preferably AC
Do I think PM needs to have more post SEC tourney success? Of course...but the consistency of getting a national seed is hard to dismiss imo. It's not that common. I believe postseason success will happen again under CPM. If it does not in the next couple years...then get new blood...preferably AC
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:36 pm to Broski
congrats on looking stupid. you know very well how to tell which teams have records with their current coaches. mainieri still doesn't SNIFF the top 5
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:37 pm to Genestealer55
quote:THERE IT IS AGAIN. good old excluded middle. the hallmark of the mainieri defender. without this strawman......well, you know the rest
unrealistic expectations
quote:well then why are you criticizing them genius? you just stated what the problem is
Do I think PM needs to have more post SEC tourney success? Of course
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:37 pm to Broski
quote:
If we're viewing it through the lense of championship or bust, then underachieved,
It's not even the lack of championships. It's the general underachieving type of performance his teams put in during the tournament. Consistently losing to teams we are rated higher than during the tournament.
This is my problem with him.
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:39 pm to TigerBR1111
quote:NO NO STOP RIGHT THERE. we've been told that our expectations are unreasonable. YOU CAN'T WIN IT ALL EVERY YEAR SON.
It's not even the lack of championships. It's the general underachieving type of performance his teams put in during the tournament
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:40 pm to TigerBR1111
quote:
Consistently losing to teams we are rated higher than during the tournament.
Stony Brook and Coastal Carolina were better teams.
Shouldn't have lost to Houston in 2014, Should've beaten North Carolina in 2013.
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:42 pm to bfniii
quote:
well then why are you criticizing them genius? you just stated what the problem is
If the haters were only complaining about post season success then I would agree. But haters are complaining from week one about everything under the sun..like midweek games...which obviously hasn't had anything to do with postseason success the last 5 years
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:46 pm to Broski
quote:
Stony Brook and Coastal Carolina were better teams.
When Stony Brook is fielding a better team than LSU we have a problem.
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:48 pm to Genestealer55
quote:what the pm supporters don't see is that the lack of cws success is what is fueling the frustration. you can say they're complaining about everything but it's been accumulating for years now. then pm supporters act like the critics have unreasonable expectations which is silly
If the haters were only complaining about post season success then I would agree. But haters are complaining from week one about everything under the sun..like midweek games
quote:debateable. it's all part of the overall picture
like midweek games...which obviously hasn't had anything to do with postseason success the last 5 years
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