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re: Tom Shatel: Shorter dimensions could bring balance to TDA Park
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:22 pm to MontanaTiger
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:22 pm to MontanaTiger
I'll give you LSU just missed 3 home runs against UCLA of course. A change in balls, fences or bats would certainly have pushed all three of those balls out of the park. I think most people are in agreement that the NcAA should change balls. Cheapest and quickest fix.
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:23 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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I think most people are in agreement that the NcAA should change balls. Cheapest and quickest fix.
I agree. Could it be done for next year? I've seen some posts saying that it couldn't be implemented until 2015.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:26 pm to MontanaTiger
It's as easy as teams/leagues purchasing Model B instead of Model A. But the NCAA has to have 25 meetings with all these agreements and BS before it can be implemented. 
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:26 pm to LSURussian
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You obviously don't comprehend the whole shape of TDAS' fence concept.
The fences take an abrupt veer away from the plate starting before the power alleys begin which makes them play much further away than a symetrical, gradual moving away from home plate of the Alex Box outfield.
Stay ignorant if it makes you feel better.
Ummm...TD Park has the same dimensions as Rosenblatt, so the size is not the problem.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:27 pm to MontanaTiger
Earlier this year the NcAA said they wouldn't look at the issue until after the 2014 season. Not really sure why but they did say that. I can't imagine what the reasoning is given all the talk about. We'll see though. Mate they'll change their mind after the see 4 runs a game in the CWS lol.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:28 pm to MontanaTiger
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I agree. Could it be done for next year? I've seen some posts saying that it couldn't be implemented until 2015.
Only because the NCAA will drag their feet. All it takes is a simple rule change to allow all the programs to purchase the same ball that is already in use in the Minor leagues.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:36 pm to RB10
I found this interesting. I read an article the other day that says the NCAA actually does NOT regulate the balls during the regular season. I believe they said they are regulated on a conference level until postseason, at which point the NCAA mandated baseball with higher seems must be used. Obviously no one would choose to use a different ball in regular season and then move to a different one. Ill have to find that link later.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:39 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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I found this interesting. I read an article the other day that says the NCAA actually does NOT regulate the balls during the regular season. I believe they said they are regulated on a conference level until postseason, at which point the NCAA mandated baseball with higher seems must be used. Obviously no one would choose to use a different ball in regular season and then move to a different one. Ill have to find that link later.
Please post it if you do, I'd like to read it. That seems a bit ridiculous. It could also explain the decrease in power numbers for some teams in the post season.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:42 pm to RB10
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I read an article the other day that says the NCAA actually does NOT regulate the balls during the regular season.
whoa!
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:43 pm to PurpleAndGold86
IIRC, they are regulated in size, weight, and core but any brand can be used throughout the season. The difference is that different companies have multiple methods and have multiple leather options which can both lead to subtle changes, mostly in feel for the pitcher and how long the ball lasts (not to mention price). Only in the postseason, when the NCAA supplies the balls, do they become totally similar, thus regulated.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:46 pm to ell_13
Someone needs to get ahold of the Tigers bats and do alittle inside work on them.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:53 pm to ell_13
Yeah the do regulate the COR which I'm sure you know. That cannot exceed .555. I will admit I do not know how low that means they could get the seams. I don't know if the seams went any lower if that would cause the COR to rise above .555
Posted on 6/20/13 at 9:01 pm to Golfer
How about this analogy. It would be like playing an entire season of basketball using the NCAA 3-point line then when you get to the Final Four they change to the NBA line. That would change the entire strategy of the game. It would benefit teams that do not rely on the 3 and hurt teams that do.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:22 pm to NolaTiger2011
No, more like taking some of the air out of the basketball for the NCAA Tournament.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 1:01 am to s_i5
Let me settle this thread for you.
The NCAA will make a change with the ball by switching to one with specifications more similar to a minor league ball.
The NCAA will make a change with the ball by switching to one with specifications more similar to a minor league ball.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 1:08 am to PurpleAndGold86
I agree with you. It has nothing to do with the dimensions.
Long balls are hit regularly at Alex Box, which is 5 feet shorter. The thing is:
A. The park (Alex Box) faces northeast, not south, where the wind primarily comes from.
B. The old Rosenblatt stadium was built on a bluff, there was nothing around it to provide friction to the wind.
TD Ameritrade is built in a valley where wind tends to swirl and on top of that it faces south, where the wind blows in, toward home plate. So any ball that is popped up, even if it's smoked, usually will stay in the park and will end up in one of the outfielder's gloves.
Change the balls.
Long balls are hit regularly at Alex Box, which is 5 feet shorter. The thing is:
A. The park (Alex Box) faces northeast, not south, where the wind primarily comes from.
B. The old Rosenblatt stadium was built on a bluff, there was nothing around it to provide friction to the wind.
TD Ameritrade is built in a valley where wind tends to swirl and on top of that it faces south, where the wind blows in, toward home plate. So any ball that is popped up, even if it's smoked, usually will stay in the park and will end up in one of the outfielder's gloves.
Change the balls.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 2:18 am to la_birdman
I believe the entire reason for going to aluminum bats was to save money over wooden bats because they break.
Anyone know if that really holds true anymore with the increased cost of the new bats?
Anyone know if that really holds true anymore with the increased cost of the new bats?
Posted on 6/21/13 at 3:00 am to Golfer
Narrower goal posts? What are you talking about Golfer.. It isn't 1990 anymore.
People talking about the ball seams being lower to reduce drag are also forgetting one point.. The ball won't be as easy to grip so pitchers will have less control and everyone won't look like an all American. It's kind of a joke that so many pitchers have ERAs in the low 2s or in the 1s. Also with so many team ERAs being below 3.
The decrease in grip will mean more hittable pitches.
People talking about the ball seams being lower to reduce drag are also forgetting one point.. The ball won't be as easy to grip so pitchers will have less control and everyone won't look like an all American. It's kind of a joke that so many pitchers have ERAs in the low 2s or in the 1s. Also with so many team ERAs being below 3.
The decrease in grip will mean more hittable pitches.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 3:01 am
Posted on 6/21/13 at 6:41 am to The Boat
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The ball won't be as easy to grip so pitchers will have less control and everyone won't look like an all American.
It'll even the playing field more IMO
College pitchers are able to have freakish breaking balls and then get to the bigs and get crushed
Posted on 6/21/13 at 8:01 am to The Boat
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The ball won't be as easy to grip so pitchers will have less control and everyone won't look like an all American.
What do you mean by grip? Even thought the seams are lower, the leather is a higher grade and rarely gets that 'slippery' feel. And the pitchers who use the seams to help spin the ball won't find it much different. I actually preferred it because there is more consistency in feel between baseballs.
But you are correct that there will be more hittable pitches. With less drag comes a straighter path of the ball. Two-seam fastballs don't cut as well and curveballs don't break as hard.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 8:02 am
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