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re: To me its obvious: Gary Crowton was the problem
Posted on 10/12/11 at 12:58 pm to Trent
Posted on 10/12/11 at 12:58 pm to Trent
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quote:Gary Crowton was the cause of all the poor clock management and delay of game mistakes Check your quarterback out dude. Crowton may have had a complex offense, but I'd hesitate to blame him for clock management problems among other things. That stuff wasn't here w/ the QB's previous to JJ. I like JJ, but we're a lot better with him coming in and running around after the game is out of hand. Give JLEE some credit.
That play to pass the ball at the end of the Aub 07 game was all Crowton and it could've been a disaster. Crowton had no concept of time management
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Posted on 10/12/11 at 12:59 pm to Cherry Cheesecake
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Crowton is gone and we are better off now.....I think we all know that by now. Can we move on and stop dwelling on our negatives in the past?
Just making an observation and discussing it. If it bothers you so much, read another thread.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 1:26 pm to BooHoo Tbow
Believe it or not, I think Crowton may be a good offensive coordinator in the NFL. I think his schemes were just too complicated for college and rely heavily on a strong-armed QB.
This year, LSU has used fewer personnel packages and fewer formations, allowing them to master their craft. There just aren't enough hours in the collegiate schedule to do too many complicated things with an offense. It's better to do one thing well than be jack of all trades and master of none.
This year, LSU has used fewer personnel packages and fewer formations, allowing them to master their craft. There just aren't enough hours in the collegiate schedule to do too many complicated things with an offense. It's better to do one thing well than be jack of all trades and master of none.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 1:29 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Crowton out cutes himself. in 07 we had awesome talent and he would pull some cute play intead of continuing to do what was working. His schemes are simply too much for most college players to grasp consistently and it loses any kind of identity.
Having Matt Flynn at QB in '07 was a major plus. The guy may not be Aaron Rogers (and then again, he may turn out to be), but he has a really high football IQ.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 1:44 pm to BooHoo Tbow
Miles kept him
Posted on 10/12/11 at 2:22 pm to nycajun
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Having Matt Flynn at QB in '07 was a major plus. The guy may not be Aaron Rogers (and then again, he may turn out to be), but he has a really high football IQ.
Smart QB's > Athletic QB's
Well, most of the time...
Posted on 10/12/11 at 2:38 pm to nycajun
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Having Jimbo Fisher's prostyle playbook was a major plus
Posted on 10/12/11 at 4:13 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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His stupid packages that would sub out 5 people every other snap
Including on the goal line with time running out. Or in the 2 minute drill. When you are running out of time, you put your best 11 on the field and kick arse. The time for gimmicks is up. Good riddance.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 4:15 pm to geauxtigahs87
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Not surprising
Is he ever involved with the offense when Lee is out there? I always sit him just moping on the bench.
He needs to be next to TC McCartney on the sideline with a clipboard and headset IMO
We're gonna call you Stretch Armstrong. JJ has been right there with the coaches most of this year.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 4:16 pm to BooHoo Tbow
I posted this in another thread, but I think it fits in with this thread as well...
You don't even need to look at the plays themselves to see the marked improvement of this offense. All you have to do is look at the pre-snap action.
The main difference is the packages and formations. Last year, on three consecutive plays, we would be in I-formation, then 5-wide, then basic spread formation.
Each play, we would sub in 3-5 guys... The play reached the field with about 13 seconds left on the play clock... We would line up with about 7-10 seconds left on the play clock. The plays were rushed... the players were rushed... and we lacked consistency.
This season, we have a much smaller arsenal of formations and packages, but we do many things out of the formations. We're successful in this way. The players are comfortable, the play gets in early and we're lined up with about 15-18 seconds left on the clock... this gives us more time to read the defense and we can choose to run the clock down or snap early. We didn't have that freedom the past few years.
If you don't even look at the play, and you only pay attention to the pre-snap, you will notice a huge difference from the offense we saw last season. Thank you, Krags!
You don't even need to look at the plays themselves to see the marked improvement of this offense. All you have to do is look at the pre-snap action.
The main difference is the packages and formations. Last year, on three consecutive plays, we would be in I-formation, then 5-wide, then basic spread formation.
Each play, we would sub in 3-5 guys... The play reached the field with about 13 seconds left on the play clock... We would line up with about 7-10 seconds left on the play clock. The plays were rushed... the players were rushed... and we lacked consistency.
This season, we have a much smaller arsenal of formations and packages, but we do many things out of the formations. We're successful in this way. The players are comfortable, the play gets in early and we're lined up with about 15-18 seconds left on the clock... this gives us more time to read the defense and we can choose to run the clock down or snap early. We didn't have that freedom the past few years.
If you don't even look at the play, and you only pay attention to the pre-snap, you will notice a huge difference from the offense we saw last season. Thank you, Krags!
This post was edited on 10/12/11 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 10/12/11 at 4:16 pm to geauxtigahs87
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We had to burn a timeout when he came in on the goalline on the jump-pass TD drive
Because a tight end wasn't paying attention and got caught as the 12th in the huddle. That was in absolutely no way JJ's fault.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 4:20 pm to BooHoo Tbow
quote:Maryland agrees:
Gary Crowton was the problem
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Maryland's offense was rate the 2nd biggest dissapoitment by this writer, noting
"...Danny O'Brien came into the season as one of the most promising young QBs in college football (22-8 TD-INT ratio as a freshman in 2010) but now looks completely lost. O'Brien has a 4-6 TD-INT mark and was benched after going 1-6 last week against Ga. Tech. O'Brien was sharp in last year's West-Coast style offense. In Edsall's new spread under Gary Crowton, the QB has been a mess. The Terps who were 9-4 last season and 29th in scoring and scored over 40 points five times last season, are 91st in scoring.
I sense there is a common denominator here. . .
Maybe O'Brien and Jefferson are related?
This post was edited on 10/12/11 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 10/12/11 at 4:34 pm to Wideman
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the play gets in early and we're lined up with about 15-18 seconds left on the clock... this gives us more time to read the defense and we can choose to run the clock down or snap early. We didn't have that freedom the past few years
To add to your point, that extra time at the line also allows the QB to go through his pre-snap reads and check down if necessary.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 4:35 pm to LSUDonMCO
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Dear sir,
How dare you not blame Les Miles for every LSU mistake?!?!?
Signed,
The Sabanistas
People like you are the ones who bring up Saban in every Les Miles thread. Not the "Sabanistas"
Posted on 10/12/11 at 4:37 pm to Jester
quote:It allows them to do. . .well. . .anything.
To add to your point, that extra time at the line also allows the QB to go through his pre-snap reads and check down if necessary.
Neither QB had that last season.
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