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To me its obvious: Gary Crowton was the problem

Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:09 pm
Posted by BooHoo Tbow
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:09 pm
Gary Crowton was the cause of all the poor clock management and delay of game mistakes in the past few years with his style of substitution before plays...I don't remember those types of problems with Jimbo and we are not seeing them now with Stud/Krag. Miles took the heat bc the heat always rises but I think that is a part of our past at this point.

IDGFIG
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 1:55 pm
Posted by casansin
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:10 pm to
Good riddence to Crowton
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:10 pm to
His stupid packages that would sub out 5 people every other snap.
Posted by medtiger
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:12 pm to
Not to rehash an old topic on here, but I still think the offense looks confused with JJ in the game, especially when he comes in the middle of a drive. I think JJ bears a little of the responsibility for the confusion as well.
Posted by NicoBlues
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:12 pm to
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Gary Crowton was the cause of all the poor clock management and delay of game mistakes in the past few years with his style of substitution before plays...

while i agree for the most part, JJ doesnt seem to manage the clock as well, and his drives havent been as smooth this year. Lee seems like he really put his head in the football books and has improved his field general skills. Not a knock on JJ, for he hasnt had a chance to develop a rythm, but i feel like Lee is a contributor in the better flow of the offense
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 12:14 pm
Posted by NicoBlues
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Not to rehash an old topic on here, but I still think the offense looks confused with JJ in the game, especially when he comes in the middle of a drive. I think JJ bears a little of the responsibility for the confusion as well.


beat me to it
Posted by LSUDonMCO
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:13 pm to
Dear sir,
How dare you not blame Les Miles for every LSU mistake?!?!?
Signed,
The Sabanistas
Posted by jrich11
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:16 pm to
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To me its obvious:


more efficient qb, leads to more efficient passing game. thus, more efficient offense.
Posted by NicoBlues
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:17 pm to
quote:



more efficient qb, leads to more efficient passing game. thus, more efficient offense.


Oh, but dont tell me you are trying to completely take the monkey off of Crowtons back? Cuz he was shite for a playcaller in his tenure here.
Posted by TiketheMiger
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:18 pm to
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Dear sir, How dare you not blame Les Miles for every LSU mistake?!?!? Signed, The Sabanistas


Head Coach is running the show. It is his job to correct those things and make sure that those mistakes only happen at practice and are cleaned up by game time.

Posted by NicoBlues
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:19 pm to
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Head Coach is running the show. It is his job to correct those things and make sure that those mistakes only happen at practice and are cleaned up by game time.

And what the frick do you think he has done?
Posted by TiketheMiger
Member since Oct 2011
1511 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

And what the frick do you think he has done?


Never said he wasn't. Said when things go wrong the blame goes to the head coach.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

the offense looks confused with JJ in the game, especially when he comes in the middle of a drive. I think JJ bears a little of the responsibility for the confusion as well.

Not surprising

Is he ever involved with the offense when Lee is out there? I always sit him just moping on the bench.

He needs to be next to TC McCartney on the sideline with a clipboard and headset IMO
Posted by brichard
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Member since Sep 2010
954 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:21 pm to
Glad to hear Crowton is sinking someone else's ship instead of ours.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34845 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:24 pm to
Stud was interviewed by local news the other day, at a presser I guess, I wasnt really paying close attention.

He blamed the UT fiasco last year on subbing in too many personnel groupings before the play and likely doing it too much during the season also. He was also very adamant in referring that it was something that was not even practiced but instead was just something that they were expected to handle when the time came during the games.

That really is unbeleivable. When you look at our offense this season compared to that, the coaching is light years better. I don't see how it can blamed on anyone but Crowton. The fact that it wasnt even practiced just makes me think of the Co-DCs back in 08.

That was some unorganized shite.
Posted by Choupique19
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Member since Sep 2005
61771 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Gary Crowton was the cause of all the poor clock management and delay of game mistakes in the past few years with his style of substitution before plays...


Gary Crowton does not coach the "I" formation. Think about how much "I" formation LSU has run the last two seasons with Charles Scott and Stevan Ridley. Basically, it was a mix of Gary Crowton and Les Miles. That is why you had all of the substitutions. Instead of subbing in one running back, or one receiver, LSU would sub a tight end, a fullback, a new running back, and a blocking wide receiver. Both of them were to blame for the last two years.

However, this year there is one fluid philosophy and the offense is running great. LSU doesn't bounce in an out of spread and power running offenses.
Posted by Lagrange Gator
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:25 pm to
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I think JJ bears a little of the responsibility for the confusion as well.


I agree, JL manages time MUCH better than JJ. The offense does look confused when JJ comes in.
Posted by TiketheMiger
Member since Oct 2011
1511 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

just makes me think of the Co-DCs back in 08.


You mean the Doug Mallory defense?

Peveto shared the title, but wasn't calling the plays.
Posted by jrich11
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Member since Jan 2010
993 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:25 pm to
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Oh, but dont tell me you are trying to completely take the monkey off of Crowtons back? Cuz he was shite for a playcaller in his tenure here.


there were certainly times when gary drove me crazy with his play calls. but, there were sometimes i thought JJ was only effective because of gary's play calls.

183 yds rushing/game this year. 189 per game last year through 6.

thus, more efficient qb, more efficient passing game, more efficient offense.
Posted by willeteal
Texarkana
Member since Aug 2010
2245 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Dear sir, How dare you not blame Les Miles for every LSU mistake?!?!? Signed, The Sabanistas



Wait, so does Joe Alleva hire and fire coordinators or does Miles do it. How does that work at LSU?


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