re: Time For The FACTS About Our Coach !!

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All good points. I think most,including myself miss Saban's bone crunching defense. It took a little while to come together but it was a thing of beauty. Most LSU fans want a dominant D rather then a gunslinging offense. While both is nice I'll take the D. When Saban was here opposing QB's knew they were in for a long night. They usually spent most of the night on their arse while our D's of late SEEM passive and reactionary. To heck with Saban for leaving and praise to Miles for staying but I, along with most want a better defense.

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Ringeaux - well said. TS works best when our D is intimidating (all the noise when the other team has the ball). I dream of and long for a dominant D.

Can we hire we TCU's defense guys (whether the HC and/or Bumpas)?

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If he falters or decides to leave, we can get another coach who will also do a good job. But he won't be perfect either.

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I agree. It sounds like something I have said many times before.

okie state has blown up and is scary on a national scale come on all speculation attack me i am a man

Give me a break with your missing this bullshite about saban and his infallible defenses! We lost by 30 points or more 4 times in his last few years.

I'll take the wins and you guys can continue to drink red kool aid and not enjoy the winningest coach we've had.

Of course that is why you picked 2005, but you should look at the total time that Pete has been at USC, not just frpm 2005. And again, the point is that he has lost 4 open invitations to the BCS championships.

Arizona State was actually a pretty good team in 2005 until they lost their starting QB. LSU struggled in case you had forgotten in that game because of Katrina and brand new DC. Perhaps you also forgot that USC only beat ASU 38-28, and definitely didn't blow out ASU in a regularly scheduled game uninterrupted by new coordinators or natural disaster.

Comparing LSU from 2003 is irrelevant because we are talking about coaches not teams. And specifically we are comparing Miles career to Carroll's career at USC, not Saban to Carroll, and not even LSU to USC.

I am not really attacking Carroll, by the way, but simply making the point that even the best coaches lose games that they shouldn't. The nickname was for effect (read sarcasm), not because I don't think he is a great coach.

So your attempt to educate is a failure because you missed the point entirely to begin with, which is that the consensus best coaches in the country lose games that they shouldn't lose and that the same fans that consistently attack Miles, with the best record of any coach in LSU history would be attacking Carroll too, if he "blew" four relatively easy opportunities to get the BCS championship, if he were the LSU coach. I am not suggesting that Carroll is inferior coach to Miles, but that even he would get a lot of criticism from some of the Rant posters.

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Ok, since nobody's playing. Bobby Johnson and Steve Spurrier are the only two current SEC coaches Les has a winning record against.

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Those are really the only two coaches that have been at their school as long as miles besides rich brooks!

In the West: Houston Nutt at Arkansas is 2-2 (2-1 at arkansas and 0-1 at ole miss)

Saban-1-1

Chiznik-0-0???

Petrino- 0-1

MSU head coach- 0-0

East tie in- Florida- Urban meyer- 2-2

You're little stat is so skewed its not even funny

1-1 vs rich brooks

The truth is its so hard to keep your head coaching job in the SEC because of lil fairweather f*ck fans like you who can't realize when a guy is actually doing a decent job, like winning a national championship. What was sabans record at LSU versus Tommy Tubberville? 2-3, does that mean that TT was a better coach than Saban? Where is TT working nowadays anyway?

ETA- changes made!

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East tie in- Florida- Urban meyer- 1-2

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Uh, 2-2, actually. '05 and '07.

I'm so sick and fricking tired of this rah-rah shite from "real fans." I'll try to be brief:

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Who has The Highest Winning % off all LSU Coaches who coached more than one season:

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Who's the only coach from that list who took over the team two years removed from a national championship? Who's the only coach on the list who had the talent Miles had when he took over?

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Bowl Wins:

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If I have to tell you how irrelevant this stat is, nothing I can say in this post will matter.

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SEC WEST TITLE'S

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I'm surprised you failed to mention SEC Championship game losses. I wonder why?

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Time For The FACTS About Our Coach !!

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No sir, those are statistics...and like a great coach once said: Statistics are like loose women, once you get one, they'll let you do whatever you want. Miles won a national championship, and sadly, that gives one a free pass to run a team/program into the ground (see Fulmer and Coker) for at least 10 years in the SEC. Is it not clear? We are getting worse, year by year, bad decision by bad decision.

11+11+12+8+1=43, but I did run out of fingers and toes, twice.