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re: There is something missing..

Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:32 pm to
One problem with finding out the truth, is what if it hurts LSU in the process? It could be that Jefferson got paid by a booster and threatened to Lester Earl his way out if not starting by the end of the season? That has always been one of my theories, since last year.
Posted by DONHOGG
NE Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
1981 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:32 pm to
Give me a f*&king break on Lee not wanting to play anymore. A friend of mine was at the Auburn game and said Les walked arm and arm with JJ to the stadium and they were the first two in line. He said Lee was in the back of the line. He said then it was only a matter of time before JJ was starting again.
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3873 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:35 pm to
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something went on and Miles just will not say to protect Lee.


I've felt this way too, Last year when Lee was official backup QB there were a couple of possessions per game regardless of score when Lee was sent in. Then to go from starter this year to not seeing any playing time even in mop up duty is really unordinary for our two QB system. Also you hear a new rumor weekly, grades, quit team, temper tantrum, mental issues, where there's smoke there's usually fire. Then throw in the isolation from his team mates and the fact that none of them seem to feel he's being mistreated. I mean wouldn't you think that after 5 years he'd have at least one team mate to BS with during the game, a kicker or someone,sheesh.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:37 pm to
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Then throw in the isolation from his team mates and the fact that none of them seem to feel he's being mistreated. I mean wouldn't you think that after 5 years he'd have at least one team mate to BS with during the game, a kicker or someone,sheesh.



I think you are on to something for sure - actions speak louder than words
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:39 pm to
If it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it probably is a duck.
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3873 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:41 pm to
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It could be that Jefferson got paid by a booster
It could be that a booster paid someone to frame Jefferson in the bar fight and the whole team knows it. I'm not saying, I'm just saying...
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:44 pm to
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it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it probably is a duck.


We all know it is a duck, which duck
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14407 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:45 pm to
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Can someone clear something up for me? If a player was inelligible, would he still dress out and stand on the sideline for every game he's rumored to be inelligible?


No. He might be allowed to be on the sidelines with his team mates, but not in full game dress.
Posted by LSU Beach Lover
Member since Sep 2011
470 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:46 pm to
There is something missing...

Yes, there is definitely something missing. I make a living picking up on situations where things aren't quite right....And this one is about to drive me crazy.

Jarrett Lee and Les Miles had to have had some kind of a problem. But Miles is a players' coach and I can easily see him not saying anything in order to protect Lee, but I can't see him doing it to the detriment of the team.

Football logic and the flimsy excuses being used are in serious contradiction.
That is why this is such a frustrating and maddening situation for the LSU fans.

But what I really don't get is why NOTHING, NOTHING has surfaced, at least nothing credible.....

Somebody had to see or hear something. It is a testiment to the team concept or a huge coverup.

Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:47 pm to
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It could be that a booster paid someone to frame Jefferson in the bar fight and the whole team knows it. I'm not saying, I'm just saying...

Wouldn't that be some shite! Never thought of that.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85011 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:49 pm to
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But what I really don't get is why NOTHING, NOTHING has surfaced, at least nothing credible.....

I would think because they were in the midst of the greatest season ever in LSU football history, and the BCSNC, and it was understood to keep all the team garbage in the locker room.

Now that the season is over, and the seniors have graduated, stay tuned. I would bet there's more to come shortly, especially after the seniors are off campus.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:49 pm to
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It could be that a booster paid someone to frame Jefferson in the bar fight and the whole team knows it. I'm not saying, I'm just saying...


Wouldn't that be some shite! Never thought of that.





Nah, I can buy someone setting up JJ, no problem there things get vicious

But can't buy the blackmail
Posted by Born to be a Tiger
Somewhere lost in Texas
Member since Jan 2008
2741 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:50 pm to
Then that was a nice try by a booster, but next time the booster should make sure the kicker has the same color shirt.

Quote:
I'm not saying, I'm just saying...
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:53 pm to
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quote:
Then throw in the isolation from his team mates and the fact that none of them seem to feel he's being mistreated. I mean wouldn't you think that after 5 years he'd have at least one team mate to BS with during the game, a kicker or someone,sheesh.



I think you are on to something for sure - actions speak louder than words


Or, if you are a player and you want to keep having a chance to play, you don't blacklist yourself by hanging around with the guy who pissed off the head coach?

Just throwing out alternate possibilities. Everything I've read about Lee does not point to him being a spoiled a**hole who was only in it for himself.

But I do think, somewhere down the line, someone in the know (a player, coach or booster) will let the truth out.

LC
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:54 pm to
Keiland Williams, but worse. Miles has a bit of history of this kind of behavior.

He clearly favored JJ. Why? Who knows. I frankly don't care any more. I'm just glad its over.
Posted by LSU Beach Lover
Member since Sep 2011
470 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:56 pm to
After the supreme a-- whipping we took last night, things may change.

Just remember, Tigers fans.... be careful what you wish for.....
Posted by ntkelley87
Member since Sep 2010
28 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:58 pm to
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Something went down that we don't know about..and I pray that personal vendettas did not cost us or those boys the Championship.


I love hearing LSU fans try and pounder, how is this so? How did we lose? Something is going on here... People i dont think it would have mattered if Lee played. I really dont. Lee has thrown for 1 TD and 7 INTS vs Alabama in his career. What makes you think that Lee could have magically came in and won that game. It wasnt going to happen. Alabama made very few mistakes last night, it would have been tough for any QB.
Posted by girlslikefootball2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
58 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:59 pm to
That only makes me think he didn't want to play even more. Why would you wear a helmet the whole game anyway..unless you were trying to look like you "wanted" to play. And the stretching on the sidelines just adds to the act. He never told the press that he really wants to get back in and play..he just said that he and Jefferson understand each other..that they were both taking snaps in practice..but he and Jefferson stopped talking to each other when the defense went out..he didn't seem interested in what JJ could tell him about what was going on or in giving JJ any advice..I hope I am wrong..not that it is a big deal if he didn't want to play anymore. If I didn't plan on being a professional football player, I wouldn't want to get hurt.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:59 pm to
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Just remember, Tigers fans.... be careful what you wish for.....



Why do folks need to make everything all or nothing

The thread is about understanding a single decision for a ball game and yes i hope we get the truth that can be confirmed some day.

Reminds me of JFK several somebody's know the truth it is just that simple, nothing more. I want the truth even if it is Sanduskian in nature.

I support Les and the Tigers!
This post was edited on 1/10/12 at 4:01 pm
Posted by LSU Beach Lover
Member since Sep 2011
470 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 3:59 pm to


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