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re: There is something missing..
Posted on 1/10/12 at 4:29 pm to girlslikefootball2
Posted on 1/10/12 at 4:29 pm to girlslikefootball2
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Les Miles did NOT quit on this team.
Les Miles ABSOLUTELY quit on this team. Down 15 and you run the ball 10 consecutive times to begin the fourth quarter is mailing it in. Letting the game end with timeouts is horse shite. Punting at the end was asinine. Not at least trying Lee is inexplicable.
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 4:46 pm to MC123
I will never believe that Miles quit on the team. Too much at stake. He had no choice but to play JJ all the way..whatever his reason. He could not put Mettenger(spelling?) in over Lee..Could you imagine the outcry of Tiger fans. We all wanted Lee in..even JJ's fans..We all wanted to win..Coach Miles wanted to win, but he had no choice!..Like I said..there is something missing. His back was against the wall and all the players know it..and Lee is a part of it. Those boys will stick together for as long as they are on that team.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 4:50 pm to DONHOGG
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Give me a f*&king break on Lee not wanting to play anymore. A friend of mine was at the Auburn game and said Les walked arm and arm with JJ to the stadium and they were the first two in line. He said Lee was in the back of the line. He said then it was only a matter of time before JJ was starting again.
Thats how it was for the Florida game also. JJ and Miles in front and Lee all the way in the back.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 4:56 pm to Camp Randall
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My theory is still that Lee didn't want to play anymore.
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I don't buy it. Why not play Mett then when JJ is choking so bad? Not that anyone else on the team was playing lights out.
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It's about keeping JJ happy and that is why nobody gets in the game. This keeps him and/or his family happy thus quite. Remember les is off the hook as long as JJ had a felony charge then when JJ gets back Les just can't demote JL because JL has LSU's O clicking. If you remember JJ gets in the very first game he is back from suspension. Les puts him in at the goal line to score. As the games go by pressure builds from JJ and/or family to start JJ. As soon as JL makes his mistakes JJ takes over. Make no mistake, this is all about JJ not JL. If JL was the issue then Mett would have been playing instead of JL. Like I said in another thread JJ was the cancer. Now Alieva(sp) should get to the bottom of this because if a player and/or family has our coach by the balls something has to be done to stop this or we will be at that family's mercy for four years when/if Ricky Jefferson plays under Les.
My theory is still that Lee didn't want to play anymore.
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I don't buy it. Why not play Mett then when JJ is choking so bad? Not that anyone else on the team was playing lights out.
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It's about keeping JJ happy and that is why nobody gets in the game. This keeps him and/or his family happy thus quite. Remember les is off the hook as long as JJ had a felony charge then when JJ gets back Les just can't demote JL because JL has LSU's O clicking. If you remember JJ gets in the very first game he is back from suspension. Les puts him in at the goal line to score. As the games go by pressure builds from JJ and/or family to start JJ. As soon as JL makes his mistakes JJ takes over. Make no mistake, this is all about JJ not JL. If JL was the issue then Mett would have been playing instead of JL. Like I said in another thread JJ was the cancer. Now Alieva(sp) should get to the bottom of this because if a player and/or family has our coach by the balls something has to be done to stop this or we will be at that family's mercy for four years when/if Ricky Jefferson plays under Les.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 4:59 pm to Double Oh
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He could not put Mettenger(spelling?) in over Lee..Could you imagine the outcry of Tiger fans
This would not have upset me. Maybe Miles didn't want to suspend Jefferson but was forced to and this is was his f u to the admin.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 5:05 pm to MFV
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As far as conspiracy theories go my most logical guess would be JJ was not the real kicker but knows who was.
Full blown conspiracy to follow:
Ooh! Or maybe JJ was the real kicker and J. Lee went to the police to dime him out so that there would be no quarterback controversy. LSU "magic" happens and the charges are downgraded, but everyone knows Lee was the snitch. They hold onto him just long enough for JJ to get over his suspension. Les allows him to stay on the team but the other players let him know, in no uncertain terms, that they won't play with Lee under center.
How does that work?
Posted on 1/10/12 at 5:06 pm to Born to be a Tiger
No..I think JJ's family would have preferred to have money..more than JJ being a part of the reason LSU lost the championship. His family was probably wishing Miles would put Lee in. I don't know..most likely never will, but I am tired now. Tigers will be back next year and we will forget all about this. I hope.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:02 pm to MFV
this
may explain it. The next question would be what could JJ and family have over Les that would cause him to play an inept QB with a NC on the line? When Les was first questioned about his failure to put Lee in, Les said it was only "fair" that JJ stay in and finish. It was only after the media suggested to Les that Lee couldnt handle the pass rush, that he lashed on to that excuse. Whatever JJ and his family may have had on Les must have been something powerful.
The curious thing to me is why the team mates shunned Lee as well. I think out of fear of being black balled as well.
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In order to keep something quite it is best to limit the information to only one or two people. We know Les knows and he will not talk. If only one other person knows the low down and it is either JJ or JL then we might never know. Especially if it protects JJ, JL and/or Les. The way I see it is that if this has to do with JL then Mett gets in the game with the NC on the line. If it about JJ then nobody gets in to keep him and/or his family happy thus quite. Remember les off the hook as long as JJ had a felony charge then when JJ gets back Les just can't demote JL because he has LSU O clicking. If you remember JJ gets in the very first game at the goal line to score. As the games go by pressure builds from JJ and/or family to start JJ. As soon JL makes his mistakes JJ takes over. Make no mistake, this is all about JJ not JL. If JL was the issue then Mett would have been playing instead of JL. Like I said in another thread JJ was the cancer.
may explain it. The next question would be what could JJ and family have over Les that would cause him to play an inept QB with a NC on the line? When Les was first questioned about his failure to put Lee in, Les said it was only "fair" that JJ stay in and finish. It was only after the media suggested to Les that Lee couldnt handle the pass rush, that he lashed on to that excuse. Whatever JJ and his family may have had on Les must have been something powerful.
The curious thing to me is why the team mates shunned Lee as well. I think out of fear of being black balled as well.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:03 pm to PnG Exsanguination
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Full blown conspiracy to follow:
Ooh! Or maybe JJ was the real kicker and J. Lee went to the police to dime him out so that there would be no quarterback controversy. LSU "magic" happens and the charges are downgraded, but everyone knows Lee was the snitch. They hold onto him just long enough for JJ to get over his suspension. Les allows him to stay on the team but the other players let him know, in no uncertain terms, that they won't play with Lee under center.
How does that work?
At this point I might could buy that
Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:10 pm to tiger91
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Full blown conspiracy to follow: Ooh! Or maybe JJ was the real kicker and J. Lee went to the police to dime him out so that there would be no quarterback controversy. LSU "magic" happens and the charges are downgraded, but everyone knows Lee was the snitch. They hold onto him just long enough for JJ to get over his suspension. Les allows him to stay on the team but the other players let him know, in no uncertain terms, that they won't play with Lee under center. How does that work?
KA---frickING----BOOOOOM!!!....WOW! This would certainly explain the shunning by team mates.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:31 pm to PnG Exsanguination
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Full blown conspiracy to follow:
Ooh! Or maybe JJ was the real kicker and J. Lee went to the police to dime him out so that there would be no quarterback controversy. LSU "magic" happens and the charges are downgraded, but everyone knows Lee was the snitch. They hold onto him just long enough for JJ to get over his suspension. Les allows him to stay on the team but the other players let him know, in no uncertain terms, that they won't play with Lee under center.
How does that work?
Interesting. Could be.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 6:48 pm to 007mag
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I've felt this way too, Last year when Lee was official backup QB there were a couple of possessions per game regardless of score when Lee was sent in. Then to go from starter this year to not seeing any playing time even in mop up duty is really unordinary for our two QB system. Also you hear a new rumor weekly, grades, quit team, temper tantrum, mental issues, where there's smoke there's usually fire. Then throw in the isolation from his team mates and the fact that none of them seem to feel he's being mistreated. I mean wouldn't you think that after 5 years he'd have at least one team mate to BS with during the game, a kicker or someone,sheesh.
I think Lee is simply a headcase. He just doesn't look good. His body language, etc. I mean during the media interviews before the game he looked depressed.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 7:01 pm to Born to be a Tiger
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Now Alieva(sp) should get to the bottom of this because if a player and/or family has our coach by the balls something has to be done to stop this or we will be at that family's mercy for four years when/if Ricky Jefferson plays under Les.
Everyone has joked for years about JJ having "naked pics" of Les. What if it is something else? Maybe JJ has some knowledge of some malfeasance by the coaching staff like other additional improper benefits from McCarthy? JJ and Les could have come to an 'understanding' that explains Les' total allegiance to JJ. After JJ glared at Ware after his awful pic I don't know of any other coach in the country who wouldn't have pulled JJ.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 7:04 pm to Enfuego
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He just doesn't look good. His body language, etc. I mean during the media interviews before the game he looked depressed.
This part I could possibly agree with as what has been going on has been going on for sometime and plain ole fatigue will eventually show
Posted on 1/10/12 at 7:13 pm to Mulat
Hasn't Lee's father been verbal or voiced some things over the past 4 years? It seems I remember this being rumored/verified at some point.
I would bet that if Lee knows, it will eventually come out. If not by him, by his family.
Either way, I am so glad JJ is gone.
I would bet that if Lee knows, it will eventually come out. If not by him, by his family.
Either way, I am so glad JJ is gone.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 7:17 pm to 007mag
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It could be that a booster paid someone to frame Jefferson in the bar fight and the whole team knows it. I'm not saying, I'm just saying...
I'm sorry, but w/ his comments about his play last night (i.e., nothing's ever HIS fault), I'm more convinced now than ever that JJ actually did kick Lowery in the head.
Let's not forget that an EBRP Grand Jury agrees w/ me. The fact that they didn't feel Lowery's injuries warranted a felony indictment is just JJ's good luck.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 7:20 pm to Tiger in Gatorland
JL is done with school right? Didn't he finish up last semestser? All he has to do is clean out his locker and drive home.
Bet you that some reporter gets to him pretty quick while the shun is still fresh and gets whatever scoop there is to get.
Bet you that some reporter gets to him pretty quick while the shun is still fresh and gets whatever scoop there is to get.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 7:22 pm to Godfather1
All this crap about Les not puting Lee in because of a Vendetta may have merit. The issue becomes, WHY if he had issues with Lee did he not at least attempt Mett? It was obvious to everyone including my two year old daughter that JJ was stinking it up.
Posted on 1/10/12 at 7:32 pm to Katy Tiger
Here's a question based on a hypothetical - if the reason for not playing Lee is something that would be embarrassing to him (Lee) would you admire Miles from keeping it secret and not "throwing Lee under the bus" and thus taking a lot of heat upon himself? Or would you be pissed he kept the fans in the dark?
Posted on 1/10/12 at 7:35 pm to TigerGumbeaux
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All this crap about Les not puting Lee in because of a Vendetta may have merit. The issue becomes, WHY if he had issues with Lee did he not at least attempt Mett? It was obvious to everyone including my two year old daughter that JJ was stinking it up.
It's not about JL it's about JJ having Les by the balls. Again if this is about JL and his family then Mett gets the reps and playing time. JJ owns less' balls then his little brother will also. Can we stand another Jefferson getting playing time over better players for another four years. Which is why somebody at LSU needs to find out what it is. No player should have our coach by the balls.
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