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re: The Weaknesses of Harris That Do Not Apply to Jennings
Posted on 9/28/14 at 6:51 pm to boxcar willie
Posted on 9/28/14 at 6:51 pm to boxcar willie
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Harris just doesn't seem to have a psyche that would be damaged by starting.
The fear is big stage, bright lights, loud crowd, confusing defense, pick-6. Does he mentally recover? He very well may, who knows. Lee didn't start at Auburn in '08 but did come back to play well after one of the worst plays in LSU history...Davey was a mental mess after early screw ups in his first start, and that was at home.
I think Harris should start, but certainly understand letting him watch a couple of series from the sidelines.
Or maybe Jennings starts, leads LSU to a touchdown, then Harris plays the next series and leads the team to a field goal, and LSU loses on an extra point re-do after John Diarse is called for an obscure rule that no one has ever been called for before.
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 7:04 pm to boxcar willie
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Harris just doesn't seem to have a psyche that would be damaged by starting. Just because some people believe it happened one time to one player doesn't equate that it happens often or would happen to Harris
I agree with that. People keep bringing up jarrett lee. sorry, harris is not jarrett lee.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 7:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:How is that an example of Miles not being willing to play better players ahead of players with seniority?
JV/Alley/Hester in 2006
Posted on 9/28/14 at 7:24 pm to King Joey
keiland and charles scott were sitting on the bench while two RB's with torn ACL's plodded around the field.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 7:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
I agree with the "Let's start Harris" gang...but once we go there, are we still going to love him when he struggles, or is tRant going to be true to their stripes, and call for the BUQB once again???
I saw the future of LSU football saturday nite and I liked what I saw!!!
I saw the future of LSU football saturday nite and I liked what I saw!!!
Posted on 9/28/14 at 7:47 pm to im4LSU
You play people who earn it. To not start Harris is telling every player that their success will not be rewarded.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:07 pm to BeeFense5
Les gave Jennings a shot by actually letting him run an "unpredictable" offensive scheme. He failed. I think he saw what he needed to see.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:16 pm to Wind Rivers Tiger
I wondered how many people would get it. 
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:21 pm to Camerlengo
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You play people who earn it. To not start Harris is telling every player that their success will not be rewarded.
Agreed. Same with Beckwith.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:36 pm to La Place Mike
whoa maybe this no punctuation thing isnt half bad after all a guy could get used to it really it kinda makes you feel like you could just type forever and ever and ever and ever and ever that is without really saying anything at all know what im saying brah
Posted on 9/28/14 at 8:41 pm to monsterballads
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keiland and charles scott were sitting on the bench while two RB's with torn ACL's plodded around the field.
Keiland had been on campus for about 2 weeks. Plus the run/pass call ratio in that game was about 30/70.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 9:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'd almost be willing to simplify the offense and start Harris. He is so smooth and athletic. Jennings looks like he makes his decisions before he even gets the ball. Harris is going to be a very, very good QB.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 10:09 pm to ForeLSU
"The Weaknesses of Harris that Do Not Apply to Jennings" really bad title. The words weakness and Harris are polar opposites. If Harris (LF, MD and other FR) did not wither under the total lack of confidence Miles had in him for who knows why, then he will not on the field. You are projecting fears and concerns based on what, average players, the coaches low expectations? Believe your eyes and realize that we should be 5-0 and in the top 5.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but it seems people are forgetting each applies to jennings also
Purely playing Devil's Advocate, I think Jennings may have one lone advantage, and we know he definitely held this advantage in the first three games. That is pure knowledge of the offensive system and how that translates to running the team pre-snap. We all saw Harris burn a TO against Wisconsin, and look confused and run the wrong direction twice in the ULM game.
That said, the way the staff calls the game when Jennings is in negates this advantage. His tentativeness with the ball, combined with the O Line's struggles are a bad combo. Also, Harris seems to be growing up rapidly, as he hasn't had any of those blown reads or calls in the last two games.
Harris will likely struggle at times, and I do not think we have seen the last of Jennings, but his talent advantage and willingness to embrace the moment is what this offense needs. The staff will have to bring him along, and will probably have to water down the playbook a bit, but that's what they get paid to do.
If the O Line was better, and the run game could stand on its own, Jennings wouldn't be a liability. He would probably be more comfortable, and would be able to be the "game manager" everyone expected. But that didn't happen this season. I don't fault Miles for starting Jennings in the first three games, based on the evidence we saw that Harris wasn't ready to run the offense yet, but that changed last week. Despite his inexperience, Harris gives this year's offense the best chance to succeed.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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for example, i'm worried about starting harris on the road and all that, too, but jennings hasn't started a road SEC game, either
I'm also worried about starting Harris on the road. I'm not so worried about starting Jennings on the road.
Other posters have suggested (and I agree with the suggestion) that even a 3 and out first possession for LSU with Jennings starting will give the true freshman Harris a chance to look around and somewhat absorb all that is hostile in the enemy confines of the stadium at Auburn.
This game is no longer within home confines. This is definitely a "for real" game on the road with the SEC champs of last year. Yes, we beat Malzahn last year at Tiger Stadium. That was early in the season before Malzahn unleashed his full true offensive/defensive scheme, IMO...
I truly believe Harris should play the majority of the game. Sorry, my belief totally agrees with your original post and I offer no rebuttals to your initial offered arguments.
However, continue to ease Harris into the real deal of the SEC West...
I keep seeing arguments about Miles' decision (poor or otherwise) to start Jennings. MSU game definitely did not work out in favor of any Miles' decision to start and play Jennings the majority of the game. Miles probably knows that.
Auburn is seriously a bigger game. We will see whether he starts/plays either or both QBs. Miles probably knows more than any of us what direction he will take. After all, he/we/LSU already has/have one loss to an SEC West team.
I hope Harris sees the majority of everything from here on out.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 11:31 am
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:01 am to c on z
Bottom line: 4 turnovers in the 1st quarter against any SEC team, we'll be laughed out of town. I think Harris should start, but fans should lower there expectations or those same fans might be calling for Jennings during that game and in the process potentially damage another young QB's confidence. We will need both for more than just this year. No matter what we think of a certain situation, we should be mindful of the future as a whole.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 6:18 am to SlowFlowPro
BLUF:
Harris runs better than Jennings. He can extend plays with his feet.
Harris runs better than Jennings. He can extend plays with his feet.
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