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re: The Coach Orgeron Vision/Plan

Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:30 am to
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:30 am to
tRant is full of experts on what LSU should have done. IMO things didn't turn out so bad, and people are still bitching. Sure, Herman would have been nice, but you don't always get everything you want. LSU fans are the biggest pussies in the nation.

Besides being loaded with talent on the field, we're loaded with young and innovative talent on the sidelines now.
Hopefully the Negas will stfu when LSU is wrecking shite next year. Can't wait.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:34 am to
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such, Coach O knows that his way to succeed in his dream job is to take a decidedly CEO-style approach, and to obtain and empower great coordinators and position coaches, while he recruits, organizes, addresses the media as the LSU football figure head, and through practice and game day motivation and management.



The best coaches in cfb are hands on one side of the ball.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:36 am to
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he could evolve to that level of a coach and persona,


He is 55. He better get a move on.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:38 am to
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I would say that this board is evolving because if you had posted that 3 weeks ago you would have been drawn and quartered.


Either we evolved or the people that were the loudest about how horrible his hire was got a nice little private message to move on.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:43 am to
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The original post is practically a clinic on the most annoying facets of the most annoying O devotees on this site.

First, a Cajun/Louisiana heritage does not constitute a coaching strength in any rational world.

Second, if it required decades of planning to generate two flimsy binders that any MBA student with access to a Kinko's could surpass in a single cappuccino fueled all-nighter, I'm terrified of the future.

Third, please stop insinuating that O could "evolve" into Saban when he has a losing record as a HC and has never even coached a bowl.

Fourth, don't compare LSU's need to obtain great coordinators with Bama and Ohio State. Those teams both have tactical geniuses as HCS (one defensive, the other offensive). LSU has a much greater need for elite coordinators because our HC has no prowess on either side of the ball.

Finally, please don't pretend that O strategically decided to accept a lower salary in order to benefit LSU and implement his master stroke. He was paid a lower salary because no one else wanted to hire him and, hence, he had no leverage. In short, his market value was much lower.

The only thing you say which withstands scrutiny is that the O approach cannot be assessed until actual games are played over the course of a full season or two. The coordinator hires look promising, but that means nothing unless it translates into victory.

Your entire post was premature celebration. Let's see how things play out before we indulge in sanctimonious lectures directed at other LSU fans. Next up is the bowl, then signing day. We need a consensus top 5/10 clas


EVERY SINGLE WORD OF THIS
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:47 am to
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The greatest joy for me would be seeing the yearly melt from ole miss fans having to admit coach o was not as bad as they made him out to be


Even if he wins a national title he is still the most unsuccessful coach in ole miss history.he won 3 sec games in 3 years.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83630 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:48 am to
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Either we evolved or the people that were the loudest about how horrible his hire was got a nice little private message to move on.


you too?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:52 am to
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you too?


Yeah it's amazing how miles was shite on for decade and it was cool. But when we actually do hire an unqualified candidate it has to be kumbaya.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
17017 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:53 am to
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He took a salary which facilitated salary margin to get such a great staff.


As if he had a choice.

And hey, I'm sure, if LSU wins an SEC title because of those great coordinators, that O's attitude will be: "Hey, it worked! I'll keep drawing a low salary and will forego a raise!"

Yeah right.

I'm glad we hired great coordinators. Of course, the pressure will be on to do the same every 2-3 years. The business model is not viable.

That's why every major program that competes for conference and national titles needs an actual head coach--not a mascot.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73548 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:55 am to
It's amazing how a new coach that did much better on the field than Miles as an interim coach is getting shite on.
Posted by Marley504
Dallas,TX
Member since Jul 2016
288 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:57 am to
The hate in this thread frick rick daddy
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17715 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:08 am to
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As such, Coach O knows that his way to succeed in his dream job is to take a decidedly CEO-style approach, and to obtain and empower great coordinators and position coaches, while he recruits, organizes, addresses the media as the LSU football figure head, and through practice and game day motivation and management.



Well, the problem with this approach is that Coach O will be only as good as his coordinators. A poor hire is all it will take. Let's hope that O will be able to keep bringing in the best coordinators

That being said, one positive about Coach O is that he can be our long term solution if he is successful here. He isn't going to take another college coaching job, and I highly doubt the NFL would hire him. If Coach O is successful here, he isn't going anywhere.
This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 9:09 am
Posted by TheOper8er
United States
Member since Dec 2016
46 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:12 am to
Most of those who disagree with your post have been banned or PM'd. Just FYI
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12266 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:16 am to
Hate?
Seems to me that it reasonable to question how Da Coach O will transform into a top level HC at age 55.
A lot of folks think this was a bad hire for HC, but admire O as a recruiter, motivator and DL coach.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:16 am to
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It's amazing how a new coach that did much better on the field than Miles as an interim coach is getting shite on.


Much better?
We lost to a 14 point underdog at home while they were missing tons of defensive starters. Sounds just like miles.


Also, ed orgeron wasnt running the offense.
He wasnt running the defense.

He did frick all to make lsu better
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7179 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:17 am to
"did not read "

What is the point of posting that?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:18 am to
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The hate in this thread frick rick daddy


Sorry you dont like truth.
Im at every lsu home game and will be at the bowl game.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:20 am to
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Hate?
Seems to me that it reasonable to question how Da Coach O will transform into a top level HC at age 55.
A lot of folks think this was a bad hire for HC, but admire O as a recruiter, motivator and DL coach.



Exactly. The notion that a 55 year old career dline coach is gonna morph into some great x and o guy is fricking absurd.

The guy wouldnt get interviewed at vandy.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203465 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:25 am to
How do you know he wasn't running the offense.... you have zero clue how much he was involved...ZERO.....
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:32 am to
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How do you know he wasn't running the offense.... you have zero clue how much he was involved...ZERO.....



He has never held a position on the offensive side of the ball. Not even as a grad assistant.


How do know miles wasnt running the defense the last decade?


If you had a brain youd know you can't prove a negative.


This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 9:33 am
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