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The Coach Orgeron Vision/Plan

Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:35 pm
Posted by THECEO
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587 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:35 pm
Coach Orgeron knows his leverage and his strengths.

His leverage/strengths are his Louisiana/Cajun heritage, his coaching experiences (DT, HC, etc...), his relationship skills, his recruiting prowess, his strong motivational skillset, and the fact that his players love him. He also has the binder, which many make fun of, but which shows he has been preparing for this opportunity for a couple of decades, inclusive of his coaching under and with National Championship and Super Bowl champion coaches.

As such, Coach O knows that his way to succeed in his dream job is to take a decidedly CEO-style approach, and to obtain and empower great coordinators and position coaches, while he recruits, organizes, addresses the media as the LSU football figure head, and through practice and game day motivation and management.

He knows he is not Saban or Urban Meyer at this stage of his coaching career. He knows who he is, and is smart and humble enough to stay in his wheelhouse. As time moves on, he could evolve to that level of a coach and persona, but in the mean time, he has a plan that has a great chance to work. And that is his focus.

Anyone who is not pleased with the staff he has assembled is trammeled to a poor attitude, or does not appreciate how hard it is to get such a staff onboard.

He took a salary which facilitated salary margin to get such a great staff. He knows that if he brings the Tigers back to championship status, that he'll get a market salary commensurate with such an achievement.

He knows that most big time programs are a rotating door at the OC and DC positions, so he will be assembling a constant list of candidates for when Aranda and Canada get their mid-major HC opportunity. That is nearly a certainty in the next 2-5 years, so that Binder needs to be constantly populated with candidates to plug in as time moves forward. That would makes LSU like tOSU, Bama and the other short list of program which have this challenge.

Many may have not had the patience to watch this all unfold, but now that it has, you owe the man his due, as this staff has to have any genuine Tiger fan feeling optimistic and pumped.

It is a very logical approach, yet no one can assess it until it gets tested.

That time is the 2017+ season(s).

I, for one, and thrilled.

As Coach O would say, Geaux Tigers

This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83583 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:37 pm to
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He knows he is not Saban or Urban Meyer.


not really an attribute...

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He took a salary which facilitated salary margin to get such a great staff.


as if he had a choice

Posted by TheUnderDog
My Boat
Member since Feb 2011
942 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:37 pm to
Good job Derek!
Posted by BLIND_TIGER225
Member since Sep 2014
57 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:39 pm to
did not read
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:39 pm to
OP is about right...jmho
Posted by TigerFan4040
Member since Sep 2013
4386 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:41 pm to
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As everyone in louisiana would say, Geaux Tigers


FIFY
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:56 pm to
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He knows he is not Saban or Urban Meyer at this stage of his coaching career. He knows who he is, and is smart and humble enough to stay in his wheelhouse. As time moves on, he could evolve to that level of a coach and persona,


Magically?
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
4764 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:59 pm to
Step 1: check tigerdroppings

Step 2: check if tigerdroppings' preferred candidate is from Louisiana. If yes, hire immediately. If no, wait a week.

Step 3: ???
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17894 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:59 pm to
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THECEO
HQ's
Member since Oct 2016
182 posts

Hmmmm.....
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11229 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 4:15 pm to
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BLIND_TIGER225



quote:

did not read



checks out
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20361 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 4:16 pm to
Don't act like he did LSU a favor by taking a low salary, come on.
Posted by mrbayoublu
Acadiana
Member since Jan 2004
2786 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 4:19 pm to
I agree with this 100 percent. The man at the top must be flexible enough to make changes that are absolutely necessary to keep the program at or near the top. The last guy here failed to do that. Coach O will.

This is the future right now.
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
3143 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 4:20 pm to
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as this staff has to have any genuine Tiger fan feeling optimistic and pumped
No it really doesn't. You can have the nicest ship in the world with the best crew but it's not gonna be worth a damn without a good captain.
Posted by THECEO
HQ's
Member since Oct 2016
587 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

#NotMyAthleticDirector


Looks like you have your emotional mind made up, so we'll except you from productive optimism and let you wallow in disgust...
Posted by jprice4608
Member since Dec 2011
944 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 4:32 pm to
Has anyone seen Saban's binder? It is sick, I think it was started by his father. I'm not joking, I once had a PDF of it. I will look for it.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9156 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 4:33 pm to
Good observations. I would say that this board is evolving because if you had posted that 3 weeks ago you would have been drawn and quartered.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7962 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 4:37 pm to
Orgeron should be alright if the hardheaded dumbass could win 9-10 a year
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
3143 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 4:37 pm to
Disliking an AD for awful, emotional, and lazy decision making over more than a decade spanning two schools is not being emotional it is being logical.
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 4:38 pm
Posted by Chaseff
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1165 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 4:54 pm to
The creator of this thread mad some great points,however some geniuses hijack it with a bunch if nonsense. I wouldn't be surprised if they are some of the one's who are posting thst they think LSU screwed up by hiring Bobby April as Special Teams Coach when he was only hired for the Bowl game! He is a consultant!! It is because they are damn stupud or lazy to read the link about it!
Posted by SL Tiger
Houston
Member since May 2007
2224 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 5:12 pm to
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The man at the top must be flexible enough to make changes that are absolutely necessary to keep the program at or near the top. The last guy here failed to do that. Coach O will.

This is the future right now.


I hear a common style between Aranda & Canada which I like. Maximize the current athletes in a way that creates mis-matches. It's almost like they gave the same intro speech but with different styles. Aranda's D will continue to get better. He's still talking about the D's failure in the aTm game...which was a game which was never in doubt. That says a lot about Aranda. Canada sounds like a future HC but he's unproven at LSU. What he did to Clemson is amazing but that's one game. He's beaten teams with better talent which leads me to believe that his scheme works. He will have more (overall) talent at LSU than he's ever coached.

CEO can focus on what he does best. Recruit, inspire, and motivate. People may argue that we could have hired a better HC than O but could we have done that and had Aranda & Canada? Could we have done that and retained O who was a long time LSU target and I know that I didn't want to lose him. The last guy failed to maximize the strengths of his coaching staff yet he had the highest payroll in the country.

In reality, the Miles firing had very little impact on LSU or CEO's current class. We probably missed a few that were leaning LSU but that's to be expected when your ace is focussed on coaching hires. It's going to be a wild ride up to NSD.
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